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fiberguy
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join:2005-05-20
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Re: When will the HD quality improve?
said by captainjy  :Tool, why do you have to be such a smart ass when you reply to people? You haven't met a smart ass until you've met me. CableTool is actually very diplomatic in an over whelming majoring of his posts. Sometimes he gives people the reply they deserve.. like this one.
If you're going to come here and post something, that isn't accurate, and that you "know it for true" and your research is a few posts from the internet... well, expect to get the response he did. I think he was being nice.
Further, I too think you should do some more research too. Lack of bandwidth? Where? Please tell us where this lack of bandwidth is... speaking on the end of cable, comcast specifically, it's not compressed due to bandwidth. New channels may not be added due to bandwidth, but last time I Checked, it's still two HD channels per 6mhz of space.
The day that my audio drops out, I will correct the problem. When things go in slow motion? Now THAT I'd like to see.
Problems do happen, that I will agree with, but what I and many others don't agree with is the analysis, conclusions, and cause of these issues.
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captainjy
join:2003-05-10
| Fiberguy,
I don't profess to be a Comcast-ite and am passing on what I have been told by Comcast and other professionals. Very few here "know it for true", including yourself. You have not provided any substantial, hardcore or revealing evidence on how Comcast works. Until you provide anything like this, you are providing an opinion like anyone else.
The response CableTool gave was not directed at me, it was directed at the original poster. This is a forum for help and many replies here are smart ass and not helpful. If you can't be helpful and want to be smug, don't reply. People come here for guidance and help.
As for audio drops, I seem to remember hearing you or Tool complaining about this at one point, as well. And the slow motion issue is something we have experienced with 4 different boxes. When you pause the DVR, wait 10 seconds or so, and then go back to Live TV, it's gone. | |
jz68
join:2005-08-17
Garden City, MI
2 edits | "and I have RARELY seen any MB"
LMAO
So you jump on me for claiming that it's a widespread problem by telling me how great your picture quality is only to mention that you DO HAVE PROBLEMS. Seriously, what are you smoking? | |
Georgiaboy
join:2005-06-25
Savannah, GA
 ·Comcast
1 edit | reply to captainjy
said by captainjy :Fiberguy, I don't profess to be a Comcast-ite and am passing on what I have been told by Comcast and other professionals. Very few here "know it for true", including yourself. You have not provided any substantial, hardcore or revealing evidence on how Comcast works. Until you provide anything like this, you are providing an opinion like anyone else. The response CableTool gave was not directed at me, it was directed at the original poster. This is a forum for help and many replies here are smart ass and not helpful. If you can't be helpful and want to be smug, don't reply. People come here for guidance and help. As for audio drops, I seem to remember hearing you or Tool complaining about this at one point, as well. And the slow motion issue is something we have experienced with 4 different boxes. When you pause the DVR, wait 10 seconds or so, and then go back to Live TV, it's gone. said by jz68 :"Anybody posting and telling me they don't have any problems with macroblocking is full of crap." Honestly doesn't seem like the original poster was that friendly either. And he asked, "Will HD quality get any better?". How do we "help" him with that? Also, it seems to me that OP made claims of his own, Cabletool simply gave a clever counter-claim. If you wanted posters to approach this w/o this so called "smug" attitude, then all it took was a poster answering the question. The answer the OP's question is "no, not at the time" or "maybe in the future." After that answer the thread could have ended. We got into debate and smart remarks after the OP made his own claims. Please tell me what those claims had to do with getting help? Some repliers were simply "helping" him get a more accurate or at least more sensible assessment than, "everybody" must have "problems"(which are relative to the user) with their HD because I saw posts in other forums." | |
Georgiaboy
join:2005-06-25
Savannah, GA
·Comcast
1 edit | reply to jz68
said by jz68 :"and I have RARELY seen any MB" So you give me crap for saying it's a widespread problem, tell me how great your picture is and then admit to having problems. Some people are REALLY dense. Perhaps the macroblocking,when it occurs,is not that bothersome, thus technically it is not a "problem" to him. Why can't you understand that? What "you" may see as a "problem" may not be a "problem" to most. People admit to having some "occasional" and even "rare" macroblocking and you find that equivalent to admitting they have a full-blown problem, and then follow it up by calling "them" dense.  | |
jz68
join:2005-08-17
Garden City, MI
| said by Georgiaboy :said by jz68 :"and I have RARELY seen any MB" So you give me crap for saying it's a widespread problem, tell me how great your picture is and then admit to having problems. Some people are REALLY dense. Perhaps the macroblocking,when it occurs,is not that bothersome, thus technically it is not a "problem" to him. Why can't you understand that? What "you" may see as a "problem" may not be a "problem" to most. People admit to having some "occasional" and even "rare" macroblocking and you find that equivalent to admitting they have a full-blown problem, and then follow it up by calling "them" dense. They are dense. I very clearly stated what my issues were and when they occur. People then jump on me for claiming that it's widespread while admitting to problems themselves. Technically it's not a problem if they don't consider it bothersome???? What the hell does that even mean. My question was about the quality of HD broadcasts and macroblocking is an issue no matter how used to it some people have become. As far as my tone, if people want to be rude then I can play that game too. | |
Georgiaboy
join:2005-06-25
Savannah, GA
·Comcast
1 edit | said by jz68 :said by Georgiaboy :said by jz68 :"and I have RARELY seen any MB" So you give me crap for saying it's a widespread problem, tell me how great your picture is and then admit to having problems. Some people are REALLY dense. Perhaps the macroblocking,when it occurs,is not that bothersome, thus technically it is not a "problem" to him. Why can't you understand that? What "you" may see as a "problem" may not be a "problem" to most. People admit to having some "occasional" and even "rare" macroblocking and you find that equivalent to admitting they have a full-blown problem, and then follow it up by calling "them" dense. They are dense. I very clearly stated what my issues were and when they occur. People then jump on me for claiming that it's widespread while admitting to problems themselves. Technically it's not a problem if they don't consider it bothersome???? What the hell does that even mean. My question was about the quality of HD broadcasts and macroblocking is an issue no matter how used to it some people have become. As far as my tone, if people want to be rude then I can play that game too. For one, Fiberguy said it was "rare", and "if" it ever occurs, it is only in certain scenes which seem to be the extreme cases such as "very" fast motion, meaning the picture quality is probably more than satisfactory for a majority of the time. Unless you wanna compare it with an HDDVD which you obviously like to, then the quality is perhaps not as pleasant. That's a "DVD" though, the movies and programming you see on cable(or any provider) are broadcasts(thus basically in real time I guess), the bit rate probably is more controlled on a DVD. Also, macroblocking doesn't have to be "blatantly" obvious and it doesn't even have to last long, thus it may not be that bothersome to everyone "when" or "if" it occurs. If you are not happy with the quality, I am sorry, but I can't tell you when it'll improve for "you", and I doubt that anyone can. If you are having "a lot" of macroblocking, have a tech check it out or something, but if you are seeking "perfection" by your standards, you may want to keep watching the HDDVDs. | |
captainjy
join:2003-05-10
2 edits | reply to Georgiaboy
I don't know the OP one bit, but the replies here are getting out of hand. Every time someone asks a question or sounds negative towards Comcast, everyone is quick to defend Comcast. Fiberguy and CableTool act like Comcast is divine. I am guessing one or both of these guys works for Comcast and Comcast can do no wrong. I am not personally attacking these two guys and the truth is, I don't have a grudge against them, but I just don't like the smart ass replies. It creates a bad and negative place.
You know exactly what the reply was, " Remind me never to hire you for any reseach I may need done." Yeah, it's not life ending, but it gets old. In every discussion, Fiberguy is always condesending with people who challenge Comcast. Sorry, but Comcast has flaws from the ground up.
Macroblocking is a problem. If you read the Comcast forums, AVS forums and here, it's all around. Audio drops are a problem. As posted earlier, I clearly remember CableTool or Fiberguy saying that their wife gets just as annoyed about it as my wife does. The Motorola DVR is a technological terror. There ARE very frustrating and ridiculous Comcast issues. | |
cracker 52
join:2007-01-23
Atlanta, GA
| What generalizations being made about problems with Comcast service doesn't cover me. I'm getting great HD pictures and the quality isn't being affected by whatever bandwidth problem that may exist.
Now I know there can be some problems with local plants, as my parents, who live about 7 miles from me, have had intermittent pixelation/sound problems with their TV SD/HD channels, while I had none of those problems (we both have the same Sony HD TV model). Comcast finally fixed the noise problem in the local plant and pixelation problems ceased. It took them a couple of months to resolve the noise problem.
The point I'm making is that far too many posters who have problems with the quality of their TV or HSI service are making broad generalizations that the entire Comcast national system is fraught with the same problems they are experiencing. Problems do arise but it's usually with the local plant or the people responsible for it. | |
Loker
Premium
join:2004-07-11
Fargo, ND
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| said by cracker 52 :The point I'm making is that far too many posters who have problems with the quality of their TV or HSI service are making broad generalizations that the entire Comcast national system is fraught with the same problems they are experiencing. Problems do arise but it's usually with the local plant or the people responsible for it. I am probably an idiot...but my understanding of Comcast is that there is no "national system"...Comcast is very compartmentalized...
If I am an idiot someone in the know please tell me if I am correct on that or not....
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cracker 52
join:2007-01-23
Atlanta, GA | Gamn,
You are not not an idiot -- there is no unified national system. I was being facitious about some posters who are exasperated enough to think there is such an animal. | |
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