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jhh

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shutting down bpl won't solve anything

There is so much interference in cities now that day time standard am reception is bad, night is almost impossible, and it has been 4 years since I last receive an english station on my shortwave. Simply, technology has moved on and Ham radio is dead, and I live in Fargo and Bismarck ND. Even fm is getting to the point in this area that I cannot even get my sirius fm transmitter to work properly. Almost every frequency either has a station or bleeds from another.
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Re: shutting down bpl won't solve anything

said by jhh:

Simply, technology has moved on and Ham radio is dead...
I've found that those who spout that Ham radio is dead are usually the least educated on the topic.

Perhaps you should go read up on how Hams are keeping pace with technology, and how they're exploiting that technology in disaster areas (Katrina mean anything?).

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Re: shutting down bpl won't solve anything

Prove it

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Re: shutting down bpl won't solve anything

said by digitalfreak:

Prove it
Satellites. Several digital modes, some new ones developed in the past five years. Various frequency allocations from above the AM band all the way into microwave. Radio networks integrated with Internet networks (Echolink and IRLP). Software defined radios.
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said by ke4pym:

said by jhh:

Simply, technology has moved on and Ham radio is dead...
I've found that those who spout that Ham radio is dead are usually the least educated on the topic.

Perhaps you should go read up on how Hams are keeping pace with technology, and how they're exploiting that technology in disaster areas (Katrina mean anything?).
Not the Katrina lie again please. Whoever started that FUD let it die, Cell phones worked after Katrina, I know was directing about 20 construction workers down there at the time and was updated with cell phones from employees.

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Re: shutting down bpl won't solve anything

said by markopoleo:

Not the Katrina lie again please. Whoever started that FUD let it die, Cell phones worked after Katrina, I know was directing about 20 construction workers down there at the time and was updated with cell phones from employees.
You mean this FUD?

»www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9228945/

Please update them with your information so they can pull the article. No reason to have false information posted on the Internet.
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Re: shutting down bpl won't solve anything

said by n2jtx:

said by markopoleo:

Not the Katrina lie again please. Whoever started that FUD let it die, Cell phones worked after Katrina, I know was directing about 20 construction workers down there at the time and was updated with cell phones from employees.
You mean this FUD?

»www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9228945/

Please update them with your information so they can pull the article. No reason to have false information posted on the Internet.
Did you say no reason to have false info posted on the internet? I think that pretty much goes against the grain of most media on the internet, its post now fact check later even for major news outlets now-a-days sadly.

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Re: shutting down bpl won't solve anything

said by markopoleo See ProfileDid you say no reason to have false info posted on the internet? I think that pretty much goes against the grain of most media on the internet, its post now fact check later even for major news outlets now-a-days sadly.
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Well here you have a golden opportunity to supply your documented facts and observations to MSNBC and have the article pulled or corrected. Otherwise, you have no one to blame but yourself if your so called "FUD" continues to spread and be referenced. Take a stand now and be heard.

Also if you happen to have corrected information on this "FUD" related to Amateur Radio providing relief after the Tsunami in 2004, please have them corrected as well:

»www.voanews.com/english/archive/···oa24.cfm
»www.tribuneindia.com/2004/200412···hi.htm#1
»www.asiamedia.ucla.edu/article.a···id=19186

I am sure BPL enthusiasts and supporters everywhere would be pleased to have these articles debunked.
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Katrina came immediately to mind. But the tsunami in a little more distant history. Hams were there to help and get communications in and out.

Plenty of natural disasters have happened where hams stepped in when all other communications were down.

And I doubt your construction workers were down there in the immediate aftermath before the mobile cell sites were setup.

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said by jhh:

There is so much interference in cities now that day time standard am reception is bad, night is almost impossible, and it has been 4 years since I last receive an english station on my shortwave. Simply, technology has moved on and Ham radio is dead, and I live in Fargo and Bismarck ND. Even fm is getting to the point in this area that I cannot even get my sirius fm transmitter to work properly. Almost every frequency either has a station or bleeds from another.
In North Dakota? You got to be kidding me... I bet it is probably a faulty streetlight or powerlines causing the problem.... I live in Northern NJ, less than 10 miles West of NYC in a region with 25,000,000 people... I don't have ANY problems with noise on the HF (shortwave) bands. I think you are having problems with something else, because what you describe isn't just because of crowded airwaves. And just for the record, only a minority of hams actually use AM on HF anymore. Most HF transmissions are SINGLE SIDEBAND (SSB) which can be either USB or LSB depending on frequency. FM is only used on the VHF/UHF bands, so stuff under ~100 miles and satellites only using FM. There are tons of HF modes like PSK31 (keyboard-to-keyboard), RTTY (original keyboard-to-keyboard), SSTV (slow scan TV), Packet Radio, IRLP, APRS (GPS linked with worldwide radio network (free text messaging)and of course CW (Morse Code). There are at least another 50 modes out there, so I'm not going to list them all. Ham Radio is by NO means just "AM Radio" like many think of it. 80% of hams probably never used AM in their ham career.

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Re: shutting down bpl won't solve anything

»www.aprs.net/

You can zoom out and get an idea.
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80% of hams probably never used AM in their ham career.
Yup and thanks to the CB'ers AM is often referred to as A$$hole Modulation
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Sounds like your radio is broken.

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