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 Mactronel Camino RealPremium
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CM94sv | I want speed I want FIOS, not some slowa$$ BPL joke  | |
|   TzaleProud Libertarian ConservativePremium
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NYC Metro | Re: I want speed said by Mactron:I want FIOS, not some slowa$$ BPL joke Exactly.... It has been proven countless times that fiber is the future, not BPL... BPL is too expensive for rural applications and in urban/suburban environments, there is plenty of competition and BPL won't be able to keep up with cable/telco competition.
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| said by Tzale:said by Mactron:I want FIOS, not some slowa$$ BPL joke Exactly.... It has been proven countless times that fiber is the future, not BPL... BPL is too expensive for rural applications and in urban/suburban environments, there is plenty of competition and BPL won't be able to keep up with cable/telco competition. -Tzale Not entirely true, I would agree if you said wireless is better than BPL for rural, but fiber in a rural area is more expensive than a BPL simply cause no fiber to begin with since most of it is copper in ground. BPL is not exactly "slowa$$" to, its comparable to DSL in lots of aspects.
BPL is NOT suppose to "keep up" with cable/telco anyways, its being marketing as a select solution for areas that have no other options. | |
| | | | | Re: I want speed said by markopoleo:said by Tzale:said by Mactron:I want FIOS, not some slowa$$ BPL joke Exactly.... It has been proven countless times that fiber is the future, not BPL... BPL is too expensive for rural applications and in urban/suburban environments, there is plenty of competition and BPL won't be able to keep up with cable/telco competition. -Tzale Not entirely true, I would agree if you said wireless is better than BPL for rural, but fiber in a rural area is more expensive than a BPL simply cause no fiber to begin with since most of it is copper in ground. BPL is not exactly "slowa$$" to, its comparable to DSL in lots of aspects. BPL is NOT suppose to "keep up" with cable/telco anyways, its being marketing as a select solution for areas that have no other options. Really? What happened to "Internet everywhere there is an outlet" and speeds rivaling cable and DSL??? This was the marketing BS that was spewed three or four years ago. After all these years we have maybe thirty trial systems, perhaps four commercials ones, optimistic numbers from the FCC that put the subscriber count well below 10K, and 200 Mbs chipsets that deliver a couple meg to end users. Even the rural promise you allude to has been proven implausible.
Frankly, it's such a joke, I don't really know if this study is much needed at this point, other than to show how badly the FCC botched its studies in the first place, how much politics drove the FCC BPL promotion machine, and how much the FCC needs to be overhauled/overseen. | |
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| Re: I want speed " rf_engineer  ]Really? What happened to "Internet everywhere there is an outlet" and speeds rivaling cable and DSL??? "
You hear the same stuff about cable and DSL , its the same lingo everyone makes. Whatever happened to Cable "up to 200meg download speed, and DSL to every person that can get a phone"? | |
| | | | | | | Re: I want speed said by markopoleo:" rf_engineer ]Really? What happened to "Internet everywhere there is an outlet" and speeds rivaling cable and DSL??? " You hear the same stuff about cable and DSL , its the same lingo everyone makes. Whatever happened to Cable "up to 200meg download speed, and DSL to every person that can get a phone"? I honestly never heard that from the cable and DSL camps. While they were deploying in their early years, the BPL industry has been doing more marketing and lobbying in their early stages. The BPL BS marketing claims have been continually repeated by the FCC, vendors, journalists, and advocacy groups, whereas the BS marketing to deployment ratio for cable and DSL has been minuscule.
Let's say for a moment that the claims you cite were made. DSL always had distinct distance limitations. There are variants to extend it, but there's always been a hard limit and I've never heard claims otherwise from multiple sources on numerous occasions like you hear from BPL's marketing sources. BPL doesn't even come close to DSL's coverage if you compare their timelines equally.
200 Mbs downloads for cable are technically feasible. Whether cable operators will ever actually provide the service due to business reasons is another story. BPL proponents will claim 200 Mbs service by virtue of the availability 200 Mbs chipsets, however the physics just aren't there to do it on overhead lines, and those making the claims don't have any concept of the limits of oversubscription.
Sure, there's BS marketing with any service, however BPL has exceeded all other broadband services in this regard by several orders of magnitude. | |
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| | | BPL has been "in" Cincinnati for many years now and still has not really moved an inch. It's a service for fools to be honest. I want fiber, that's all I want. I don't want cable, I don't want xDSL (God forbid Cincinnati Bell actually deploy anything fast in this city), I want the goodness that comes with fiber. Its a medium you eventually stop throwing money at because its capable of handling a greater demand.
We as a society apparently just love to band-aid everything. | |
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| | AMEN!!!! WHY ARE THE POWER COMPANIES INVESTING IN THE SHORT TERM TO DISRUPT SO MANY PEOPLE???
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