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Matt
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reply to Tzale
Re: Fcc listening?

Tzale, good for you! That is quite an accomplishment.

It takes all of 15 minutes and a rudimentary understanding of electronics and radio propagation to take the test to become a HAM. You deserve your spectrum.

Progress is progress.

Please step aside and let progress take its course.
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RadioDoc
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That would be relevant if BPL was actually "progress". It isn't. If anything it's a fragile, stopgap technology which has little hope of ever reaching market critical mass. It is far too expensive to deploy and far too susceptible to interference to be anything other than a technology of last resort.
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RayW
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reply to Matt
said by Matt See Profile :

Tzale, good for you! That is quite an accomplishment.

It takes all of 15 minutes and a rudimentary understanding of electronics and radio propagation to take the test to become a HAM. You deserve your spectrum.

Progress is progress.

Please step aside and let progress take its course.
You are better than 99.999% of Americans then. It took my 13 year old daughter about 20 hours of class and about the same amount of home work and two tries to get a license, and she is an 'A' student in school. Most exams have about an 80% pass rate, and I know that some of those people do put forth the effort to ask for help.

Step aside? Sure, I wonder if the family of the lady that one of my group called in life flight a few months ago for thinks like you do? Cell phones did not work, but ham radio still did. As I heard, weakly, and possibly not at all if BPL was heavily used in the area that took the call and routed it to the police.
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rf_engineer

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reply to Matt
said by Matt See Profile :

Progress is progress.

Please step aside and let progress take its course.
Ummmmm...progress? You joking? BPL is a wideband RF carrier superimposed on an unshielded medium that was built for carrying 60 Hz energy. It was known back in the 30s and 40s that unshielded wires weren't suitable for wideband data. That's why twisted pairs were created which lead to phone service on a mass scale, TDM facilities, and ultimately to fiber. Carrying data on powerlines is like making a horse and buggy go 200 MPH with rockets. Sure, you have the technology to do it, but it's messy and can't really compete with a race car or even a family SUV.


Tzale
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reply to Matt
said by Matt See Profile :

Tzale, good for you! That is quite an accomplishment.

It takes all of 15 minutes and a rudimentary understanding of electronics and radio propagation to take the test to become a HAM. You deserve your spectrum.

Progress is progress.

Please step aside and let progress take its course.
Uh, I think you have the Extra class confused with the Technician and even General class license.... Sure, the technician class license is easy (VHF/UHF), but General and especially Extra require a lot of knowledge.

You can become a ham in a day or two of studying for the "Technician" class, but for the others, it requires much more.

Don't be an idiot, learn about it before you bash it. I had to learn CW, which took well over a month of daily study for an hour, and that is just for General. The FCC has relaxed the requirements A LOT in the last few years, even eliminating the CW requirement on December 19th 2006, which will go into effect Feb. 23rd, but you still need a good electronic understanding to get an Extra class license. It is by NO means easy to get, most people who earn that license are Electronic Engineers.

-Tzale


thender2
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reply to Matt
said by Matt See Profile :

Tzale, good for you! That is quite an accomplishment.

It takes all of 15 minutes and a rudimentary understanding of electronics and radio propagation to take the test to become a HAM. You deserve your spectrum.

Progress is progress.

Please step aside and let progress take its course.
Progress is DOCSIS 3.0. Progress is FTTH.

BPL is not progress - it is garbage.
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Matt
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said by RayW See Profile :

said by Matt See Profile :

Tzale, good for you! That is quite an accomplishment.

It takes all of 15 minutes and a rudimentary understanding of electronics and radio propagation to take the test to become a HAM. You deserve your spectrum.

Progress is progress.

Please step aside and let progress take its course.
You are better than 99.999% of Americans then. It took my 13 year old daughter about 20 hours of class and about the same amount of home work and two tries to get a license, and she is an 'A' student in school. Most exams have about an 80% pass rate, and I know that some of those people do put forth the effort to ask for help.

Step aside? Sure, I wonder if the family of the lady that one of my group called in life flight a few months ago for thinks like you do? Cell phones did not work, but ham radio still did. As I heard, weakly, and possibly not at all if BPL was heavily used in the area that took the call and routed it to the police.
Nevermind, pointless.
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RayW
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Pointless that you are too intelligent, or that I had a valid reason for Ham radio?

To add to a reason for Ham radio, I talked to a doctor today who was in Florida when the tornadoes went through. Yes, the cell phones worked and the power was still on. But you could not use the cell phones (and she had two, Verizon and another) or the land lines because they were overloaded. The outdated and worthless radio was the communications to the hospital from her operations site. Granted it was only about four hours, but to some people that is the difference between being helped and not being helped.
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