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JDC69
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Oakridge, OR

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reply to Tzale

Re: Fcc listening?

I understand both sides of this argument and it is not an easy one to resolve. My father was a ham radio operator and as a result I used to go with him to some of the meetings held by the club he was a member of. The ham operators at those meetings were some of the most technically adept individuals I have ever met. Good god those guys could mod any damn thing it seemed like to fit their purposes. My father actually took a regular old 40 channel cb and added a few project boxes that housed some switches and other components (purchased from Radio Shack back when it was a ham operator geared store) and made it into a sideband rig that he used in his work truck. I must say that I applaud the knowledge and ingenuity shown by most ham operators.
The internet community needs to attempt to model itself after the hams. More internet users need to educate themselves about the current technologies and what is and is not possible. Start holding ISP's accountable for their shoddy service and in the case of BPL do away with the companies who are producing inferior equipment that is in turn creating issues for the ham community.
If there are deployments of BPL that are not causing interference or effecting ham operators then these need to be the standard for future roll outs. As consumers we do have the ability to affect whether products and manufacturers succeed in the marketplace. So instead of arguing about this why don't we try working together on a solution? Request that BPL technology be fully tested and certified by an independent entity before it is allowed to reach consumers. This would put an end to the manufacturing of half assed BPL equipment which in the long run would be a win/win situation for all.
The ham operators do have a significant place as part of the communication infrastructure in our nation and they really are some of the smartest people you will ever encounter. If my understanding of what they are saying is correct then there are ways to deploy BPL with minimum impact on them. I am all for new technology and I do like the thought of something like BPL where it can reach the masses who have little other chance of ever seeing a broadband connection. So if there is a way to do that without screwing over the ham ops why not get together and make a push for that?

Sorry about the lack of formatting before, I was pressed for time when I originally posted. Hope this edit works out better for you.


Matt
All noise, no signal.
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join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
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said by JDC69:

I understand both sides of this arguement and it is not an easy one to resolve. My father was a ham radio operator and as a result I used to go with him to some of the meetings held by the club he was a member of. The ham operators at those meetings were some of the most technically adept individuals I have ever met. Good god those guys could mod any damn thing it seemed like to fit their purposes. My father actually took a regular old 40 channel cb and added a few project boxes that housed some switches and other components (purchased from Radio Shack back when it was a ham operator geared store) and made it into a sideband rig that he used in his work truck. I must say that I appluad the knowledge and ingenuity shown by most ham operators. The internet community needs to attempt to model itself after the hams. More internet users need to educate themselfs about the current technologies and what is and is not possible. Start holding ISP's accountable for their shotty service and in the case of BPL do away with the companies who are producing trash equipment that is messing with the ham community. If there are deployments of BPL that do not interfere with the ham operators go with the same equipment in future roll outs. As consumers we do have the power to affect things like this as if no one suppots an emerging technology from a manufacturer it is sure to be short lived. So instead of argueing about this why don't we try working together on a solution. Put an end to the companies manufaturing half assed BPL equipment by simply refusing to purchase or use it. The ham operators do have a significant place as part of the communication infrastructure in our nation and they really are some of the smartest people you will ever encounter. If my understanding of what they are saying is correct then there are ways to deploy BPL with minimum impact on them. I am all for new technology and I do like the thought of something like BPL where it can reach the masses who have little other chance of ever seeing a broadband connection. So if there is a way to do that without screwing over the ham ops why not get together and make a push for that?
Please repost what you just said ... only ... please use paragraphs.
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rf_engineer

join:2003-08-04
USA

said by Matt:

said by JDC69:

I understand both sides of this arguement and it is not an easy one to resolve.
Please repost what you just said ... only ... please use paragraphs.
Can't debate the information, attack the grammar.

Pointless is right. What is your point?


Thaler
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said by rf_engineer:

Can't debate the information, attack the grammar.
No...it's just that the logic train is really hard to follow when it's buried in a clump of text. Just at a glance, trying to read and comprehend your message begins to start a headache.

It's easier to read and follow, that's all.


rf_engineer

join:2003-08-04
USA

said by Thaler:

said by rf_engineer:

Can't debate the information, attack the grammar.
No...it's just that the logic train is really hard to follow when it's buried in a clump of text. Just at a glance, trying to read and comprehend your message begins to start a headache.

It's easier to read and follow, that's all.
It wasn't my message. Yea, it could use same paragraphs, but I can follow it.


Thaler
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said by rf_engineer:

It wasn't my message. Yea, it could use same paragraphs, but I can follow it.
True, for you. Me on the other hand, I just find myself re-reading a lot because the train of thought gets derailed in its formatting.

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