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insomniac84

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radiation is radiation?

I hope they are ready to block out the sun, turn off anything that makes visible light, stop using microwaves, tvs, anything electronic, etc. Hell, if radiation is radiation they might as well live in sealed lead boxes.

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ionizing vs non-ionizing.

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idiots vs reasonable people

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said by Mike See Profile :

ionizing vs non-ionizing.
Yup! I was gonna say the same thing, but you beat me to it. Bravo.

These cringers(ignorant 'fraidy cats) should pull their collective heads out of their collective asses and do some real research before they form committees and PACs and all that. Spreading FUD brings on all kinds of mean, nasty, ugly things.

Not that there's any thing wrong with being a cringer(ignorant 'fraidy cat).


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russotto

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Visible light is ionizing; microwaves are non-ionizing. That's one point in favor of WiFi over the sun.
mlundin

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Re: radiation is radiation?

I'm with the homeowners association... block out the sun too. Darkness rocks.

F*cking morons.
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Check out www.theangellady.net

Perfect rebuttal: just direct anyone asking about this to: »www.theangellady.net

Who would take this nutcase's word for anything?

I'd like to add this to the discussion: if 1W Wi-Fi AP's, and 50W cell phone base stations are so dangerous, how come there's all these 3,000,000 W EIRP UHF TV stations operating all these decades, with no ill-effects?!

I guess the angels like watching Oprah so much, they protect us from the deadly TV rays(?)

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Are you sure there are no ill effects. Maybe her insanity was caused by a UHF station. For that matter maybe we are all insane, besides I would be more worried about AM stations. Proximity to the antenna is much closer. Maybe she walked up and grabbed an AM tower when she was young.

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said by rfnut See Profile :

Maybe her insanity was caused by a UHF station.
My guess is good ole fashion crack rock. It works every time.

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said by rfnut See Profile :

Maybe her insanity was caused by a UHF station.
My guess is good ole fashion crack rock. It works every time.
Nah it was Woodstock!!! Summer of love ftw!

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said by PDXPLT See Profile :

I'd like to add this to the discussion: if 1W Wi-Fi AP's, and 50W cell phone base stations are so dangerous, how come there's all these 3,000,000 W EIRP UHF TV stations operating all these decades, with no ill-effects?!
Many Consumer routers operate at 50mW, or 1/20th of a Watt

And it's basically overkill to use a whole watt on a wifi AP.
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You should see their website

said by »healthyhomealliance.com/ :

“These Wi-Fi transmitters function at 2.45 GHz, which is like being surrounded by a
microwave oven without walls or doors.”
This is like arguing that two 9V batteries are more dangerous than a 12V car battery.
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Oh, this site is tasty. These people should take a high school class in writing. They break so many rules.

Any device or system that emits radiation is hazardous to your health.
I hope these guys don't use flashlights.

Most scientists have concluded that radiation causes harm to humans on all levels: mental, emotional, and physical.
Most scientists don't study radiation, so this statement is false by default.

As scary as it seems, chronic exposure to Electromagnetic Radiation, will definitely harm your children.
Again, too inclusive. "Will definitely" is definitely poor word choice with the only intent of creating fear.

Monumental consequences to the city and its citizens could be caused by a virus being introduced into the system.
Easily the best line on the whole website.

This site should be used to help define FUD.
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If they have ever sat in front of a computer, TV, radio emitter of any type, then its too late for them.

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said by blueeyesm See Profile :

If they have ever sat in front of a computer, TV, radio emitter of any type, then its too late for them.
Or better yet....used a cell phone. Don't they know those things emit radiation? I bet most of these people have cell phones.

Maybe they use handsfree devices and put the cell phone in between their legs while driving or in their pockets when walking around. Radiation next to reproductive body parts may make them sterile which would help the gene pool out in the end.
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"These Wi-Fi transmitters function at 2.45 GHz, which is like being surrounded by a microwave without walls or doors."

So what's next? Getting rid of all 2.4ghz and 5.8ghz cordless phones?

What a bunch of lunatics. Stay home moms really need to find something to do besides complain.

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said by Maxo See Profile :

As scary as it seems, chronic exposure to Electromagnetic Radiation, will definitely harm your children.
Again, too inclusive. "Will definitely" is definitely poor word choice with the only intent of creating fear.
I thought I read somewhere that the human body generates its own electro magnetic radiation on a small level. Oh wait, lets not forget this planet is out to kill us all, it generates its own electromagnetic radiation...... FEAR EARTH, LEAVE EARTH, EARTH KILLS!!!

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It's more like comparing a hearing aid battery to a power plant.

1/4 of a watt, compared to 1200 watts. And just because a microwave has a box, doesn't mean they don't leak
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I also wonder how many of them have wireless phones at home. 2.4GHz is the most common if I'm not mistaken. The only people who have a valid excuse for making anti-wifi statements are amish,
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said by Tomek See Profile :

I also wonder how many of them have wireless phones at home. 2.4GHz is the most common if I'm not mistaken. The only people who have a valid excuse for making anti-wifi statements are amish,
And watching the news after the school shooting tradgedy, the amish were using laptops.
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said by PhoenixAZ See Profile :

said by Tomek See Profile :

I also wonder how many of them have wireless phones at home. 2.4GHz is the most common if I'm not mistaken. The only people who have a valid excuse for making anti-wifi statements are amish,
And watching the news after the school shooting tradgedy, the amish were using laptops.
Milk and Cream is a serious business, the amish from what ive heard are pretty modern in the barn(phones, computers and refrigeration), but maintain tradition in the home.
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said by PhoenixAZ See Profile :

said by Tomek See Profile :

I also wonder how many of them have wireless phones at home. 2.4GHz is the most common if I'm not mistaken. The only people who have a valid excuse for making anti-wifi statements are amish,
And watching the news after the school shooting tradgedy, the amish were using laptops.
Milk and Cream is a serious business, the amish from what ive heard are pretty modern in the barn(phones, computers and refrigeration), but maintain tradition in the home.
yeah, but they aren't afraid of the radiation coming from it
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said by Maxo See Profile :

You should see their website

said by »healthyhomealliance.com/ :

“These Wi-Fi transmitters function at 2.45 GHz, which is like being surrounded by a
microwave oven without walls or doors.”
This is like arguing that two 9V batteries are more dangerous than a 12V car battery.
Two nine volts ARE more dangerous than a 12 volt car battery. It's very hard to get your tongue across *both* terminals on the big car battery...

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It's not hard to lay a steel bar across a 12V car battery.

Edit: Grammar

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If you put your tongue across *both* terminals of a 9V, it won't kill you or do any real damage, AFAIK. Unless you jump back from the sharp tingle and fall or something!

It's amazing how well society runs given the constituents. Are people just innately this stupid, or is it poor schooling that makes them such an embarrassment to themselves? Or is it willful ignorance in furtherance of some other cause?
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A 9V has enough mA to kill you, your skin just is not the best conductor. At least one person has died from a 9V powered Ohm meter and prongs pierced under the skin
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9V can do a lot of harm to you. A 9V battery, or two, that would be purchased at a local drug store doesn't have enough amps to hurt you. On the other hand, a 12V car battery has enough to do some real damage. Hence my analogy.
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You'd have a lot more credibility if you weren't mixing voltage and current.

That infamous sailor stuck metal probes into his skin and evidently touched a nerve. Even a watch battery could cause damage under those highly specific conditions. He was reckless, idiotic and a Darwin Award candidate.

However, that has absolutely nothing to do with this story.
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Well, there are stun guns that run off standard 9V batteries too. And a 9V dropped off the empire state building is probably deadly once it hits street level as well...

chuckle...

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said by insomniac84 See Profile :

Hell, if radiation is radiation they might as well live in sealed lead boxes.
...errr... Lead Poisoning!!!! Geesh
What a bunch of Luddites!
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"To me, radiation is radiation"

I think that about sums up this lunatic's comprehension of physics. . .
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said by fireflier See Profile :

"To me, radiation is radiation"

"Ra-di-a-tion. Yes, indeed. You hear the most outrageous lies about it. Half-baked goggle-box do-gooders telling everybody it's bad for you. Pernicious nonsense! Everybody could stand a hundred chest X-rays a year! They should have 'em too!"

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said by insomniac84 See Profile :

I hope they are ready to block out the sun, turn off anything that makes visible light, stop using microwaves, tvs, anything electronic, etc. Hell, if radiation is radiation they might as well live in sealed lead boxes.
You see that movie "The Others"? I'm sure the parents act the same way w/ their kids and the sun. They also probably use SPF 100 sunblock when their kids do have to go out.. lol

Anways, AM and FM, TV, Satellite, and other short wave signals are flying about.

I think they are just bored and want to waste peoples time.. I notice the USA has lots of that.
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We stick by our suggestion that concerned parents should force their children to wear mobile Faraday cages.
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This site is so embarrassingly silly I actually thought it was a parody at first. They can't even stay on topic as to why they dont want it. It's well worth reading:
»healthyhomealliance.com/info.html

I particularly liked this ending bit of completely obvious FUD:

Is Wi-Fi dangerous?
YES! Any device or system that emits radiation is hazardous to your health.

I'm surprised they don't say wifi causes communism too!

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Lightbulbs emit radiation. Turn off those lights!!!!

I liked this tidbit too:

Teenagers are more at risk because their hormones are changing.
WiFi made my teen moody! Hey, can I tweak my router to affect adult hormones? You know, like my wife's?
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said by Jason Levine See Profile :

Hey, can I tweak my router to affect adult hormones? You know, like my wife's?
You will have to adjust to a higher RWIN. But your TTL will be shorter...
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They are probably in the cable co. pocket book, I would not be surprised.

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Jenny Vinson filed a $60 million lawsuit today against D-Link, Inc. alledging her husband's wi-fi network caused his brain cancer. The complaint alleges the "wi-fi" booster along with the router caused irreperable brain damage that lead to his death. She also claims the product contributed to bouts of schizophrenic behavior that doctors later determined was a brain tumor. Harold Vinson was a computer specialist for nearly 30 years before his untimely death.
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i could see being worried if the TV wanted to put their Doppler 4000 by your house but wifi is totally safe.
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