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thender2
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Staten Island, NY

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LOL @ bullshit

There is no FISION. There was supposed to be FISION to 1.8 million people in November 2005.. where is that? removed See Profile was supposed to be able to get FISION, what happened to that?

FISION is like sega's set top box. FISION is like the Rio Chroma MP3 player. FISION is like firmware for ID3 tag databases on the iAudio X5. FISION is nonsensical vaporware that'll never be served to everyone.

When you hire people like MTBikerChris See Profile posting "pic's"(not pics - pic's) of FISION, you can only expect so much. As can be seen here »fision Internet/ tv / Dig phone it took nearly a year after the service was supposed to be deployed to 1.3-1.8 million people to get proof it existed!

FISION was good for a free t-shirt, and nothing more.

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This report, which notes they've found gamers think 15Mbps is the sweet spot, has more detail.
What kind of nonsense is that? 15 mbps for gaming? You can game just fine on 1.5/384, it's all about the latency. You can even host a game on 5/2 mbps, with good latency, maybe much less.

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Their website (which lacks price details; we've inquired)
Of course it lacks detail. It's vaporware - vaporware always lacks detail. Ask the aforementioned companies, they all lacked detail and communication, and look where their products ended up.

fiberguy
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Not to mention, they're calling it all wrong. According to many around here, ALL fiber connections are FiOS anyway, right?

The other thing about this fizzle service is, and I'm going to bet, it's alot like most smaller operations. It most likely comes with a small cap (SureWest, one of the first fiber to the home services in the country from WinFirst now Roseville Telephone Co aka Surewest, is 40gig monthly - Woohoo!)

15mb is the gamers sweet spot? How about good latency at 56k? But I see you already mentioned that.. just wanting to basically agree with you.

And... no phone number? You have to communicate through a website webform? Do I live there? No... am I pointing out some obvious bull? Yes.
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thender2
Glamour Profession
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Staten Island, NY

40 gigs? You have got to be kidding, I uploaded near that mark a month when I had 768/128 kbps.. that's a total joke.



Karl Bode
News Guy
join:2000-03-02
kudos:30

Yeah, sadly those symmetrical FTTH services in Utah suffer from the same ailment....great speed that you can't actually use.


The Gizmo

join:2002-03-12
Pearland, TX

reply to fiberguy
Before they launched they said it would have unlimited bandwidth and uptime, whether they still promise that.. I don't know.


fredwilson12

join:2005-04-20
Sacramento, CA

reply to fiberguy
I read that SureWest has recently raised the cap on their 20 and 50Mbps speeds to more reasonable levels. And I also speak from experience when I say that they don't monitor the usage (atleast in my area) whatsoever. I think they have these bandwidth caps in place so that if they have a trouble customer, Surewest will have something in writing that allows them to charge more or suspend service if necessary.


w4ncr

join:2000-10-27

reply to thender2
AS YOU PROBABLY NOTICED NO MENTION ON UPLOAD SPEED??????



thender2
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Staten Island, NY

said by w4ncr:

AS YOU PROBABLY NOTICED NO MENTION ON UPLOAD SPEED??????
THEY SAID SYMMETRICAL 15 MBPS WHICH MEANS 15 MBPS BOTH WAYS, BOTH UP AND DOWN, ALTHOUGH AN ASSCLOWN WHO CAN'T FIND HIS CAPS LOCK PROBABLY SHOULDN'T BE EXPECTED TO UNDERSTAND VOCABULARY ON A 3RD GRADE LEVEL?!!!?!!?!111


MysticGogeta
The Robot Devil
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join:2005-03-14
League City, TX

CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL


Poomfasa

join:2003-04-13
Rocklin, CA

reply to fiberguy
Going to post this again....

Surewest bandwidth thresholds
1/1 = 30GB
10/10 = 75GB
20/20 = 150GB
50/50 = 400GB

Everytime so far I've seen someone go past the quota is because they had a worm/virus on their system causing a lot of traffic. If you're downloading 75gigs a month you're likely doing file sharing/porn anyways. Granted, I know there's ways to shatter it such as VPN'ing on a daily basis pushing huge files around or streaming HD video. The reality is that's usually not what actually happens.

I hate caps too, especially the invisible Comcast one I have on my home connection. Not defending them outright, but they do serve a purpose.



thender2
Glamour Profession
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Staten Island, NY

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said by Poomfasa:

If you're downloading 75gigs a month you're likely doing file sharing/porn anyways.
If people thought like you in 1995, ISDN would be a luxury, bonded ISDN lines for 256k would be for "file sharing and porn", and DSL would be reserved for the richest of men and T1s for the wealthiest businesses.

There is no point to fiber with those caps. None. Why do I want a cap I can blow through in one day? What use is this to me?

If caps don't exist for 3 mbps DSL - if they exist but hidden around 300-400 GB for cable down, and 30 for 6-8 mbps cable up - if they exist at 60-200 GB for fiber at 10-30 mbps, then are we really advancing, or are we just tipping the see-saw a little so we can raise the numbers that people want to see? Is any progress being made if we lower the cap each time we up the bandwidth?

At this rate, by 2020, all Americans will have FTTH 100/100 and receive abuse letters for opening an animated greeting card in their email.

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Not defending them outright, but they do serve a purpose.
You're right, they do. In a magazine ad, in a TV commercial, they can say "OMG WE HAVE 20/20 MBPS INTERNET AND THE COMPETITOR CABLE ONLY HAS 6/768, COME TO US WE ARE THE FASTAR!11", only to mislead people into thinking their service isn't the same shit as comcast, just tilted. Lower cap and higher bandwidth. Same garbage, just delegated differently.

To say the only way to use bandwidth on the internet is porn and piracy is one of the most ignorant and ridiculous statements I've ever heard, so much so I almost expected to see fAcEtIOUs See Profile's avatar after reading your post. I can just imagine with communication technologies would be like today if people like you had influence in development of them fifty years ago, it'd be a scary world...

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Poomfasa

join:2003-04-13
Rocklin, CA

Sorry, but telling like how it is when it comes to residential customers who consume the most. Working for an ISP has really opened my eyes on what goes on. In the end, it doesn't really matter to me - personally, I don't care. As long as they don't cause problems for other customers I'm personally fine with it. I also pointed out I realize customers with high usage aren't always doing those activities though they are not the majority. There's a good chunk of them that just had their machines compromised by a trojan/worm/etc even.

As far "if people like you had influence in development of them fifty years ago, it'd be a scary world..." is going a little overboard. If I had any choice about it everyone would have the choice to have FTTH, caps would be extremely generous if they had to exist, and net neutrality would be a reality. Maybe a little more kicking of Microsoft in the butt too, but can't have everything.


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