 fiberguy My views are my own. Premium join:2005-05-20
1 edit | reply to thender2 Re: LOL @ bullshit
Not to mention, they're calling it all wrong. According to many around here, ALL fiber connections are FiOS anyway, right?
The other thing about this fizzle service is, and I'm going to bet, it's alot like most smaller operations. It most likely comes with a small cap (SureWest, one of the first fiber to the home services in the country from WinFirst now Roseville Telephone Co aka Surewest, is 40gig monthly - Woohoo!)
15mb is the gamers sweet spot? How about good latency at 56k? But I see you already mentioned that.. just wanting to basically agree with you.
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  thender2 Glamour Profession Premium join:2004-05-16 Staten Island, NY | 40 gigs? You have got to be kidding, I uploaded near that mark a month when I had 768/128 kbps.. that's a total joke. |
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  Karl Bode News Guy join:2000-03-02 | Yeah, sadly those symmetrical FTTH services in Utah suffer from the same ailment....great speed that you can't actually use. |
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 The Gizmo
join:2002-03-12 Pearland, TX | reply to fiberguy Before they launched they said it would have unlimited bandwidth and uptime, whether they still promise that.. I don't know. |
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 fredwilson12
join:2005-04-20 Sacramento, CA
| reply to fiberguy I read that SureWest has recently raised the cap on their 20 and 50Mbps speeds to more reasonable levels. And I also speak from experience when I say that they don't monitor the usage (atleast in my area) whatsoever. I think they have these bandwidth caps in place so that if they have a trouble customer, Surewest will have something in writing that allows them to charge more or suspend service if necessary. |
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 Poomfasa
join:2003-04-13 Rocklin, CA
| reply to fiberguy Going to post this again....
Surewest bandwidth thresholds 1/1 = 30GB 10/10 = 75GB 20/20 = 150GB 50/50 = 400GB
Everytime so far I've seen someone go past the quota is because they had a worm/virus on their system causing a lot of traffic. If you're downloading 75gigs a month you're likely doing file sharing/porn anyways. Granted, I know there's ways to shatter it such as VPN'ing on a daily basis pushing huge files around or streaming HD video. The reality is that's usually not what actually happens.
I hate caps too, especially the invisible Comcast one I have on my home connection. Not defending them outright, but they do serve a purpose. |
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  thender2 Glamour Profession Premium join:2004-05-16 Staten Island, NY
4 edits | said by Poomfasa :If you're downloading 75gigs a month you're likely doing file sharing/porn anyways. If people thought like you in 1995, ISDN would be a luxury, bonded ISDN lines for 256k would be for "file sharing and porn", and DSL would be reserved for the richest of men and T1s for the wealthiest businesses.
There is no point to fiber with those caps. None. Why do I want a cap I can blow through in one day? What use is this to me?
If caps don't exist for 3 mbps DSL - if they exist but hidden around 300-400 GB for cable down, and 30 for 6-8 mbps cable up - if they exist at 60-200 GB for fiber at 10-30 mbps, then are we really advancing, or are we just tipping the see-saw a little so we can raise the numbers that people want to see? Is any progress being made if we lower the cap each time we up the bandwidth?
At this rate, by 2020, all Americans will have FTTH 100/100 and receive abuse letters for opening an animated greeting card in their email.
quote: Not defending them outright, but they do serve a purpose.
You're right, they do. In a magazine ad, in a TV commercial, they can say "OMG WE HAVE 20/20 MBPS INTERNET AND THE COMPETITOR CABLE ONLY HAS 6/768, COME TO US WE ARE THE FASTAR!11", only to mislead people into thinking their service isn't the same shit as comcast, just tilted. Lower cap and higher bandwidth. Same garbage, just delegated differently.
To say the only way to use bandwidth on the internet is porn and piracy is one of the most ignorant and ridiculous statements I've ever heard, so much so I almost expected to see TKJunkMail 's avatar after reading your post. I can just imagine with communication technologies would be like today if people like you had influence in development of them fifty years ago, it'd be a scary world...
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 Poomfasa
join:2003-04-13 Rocklin, CA
| Sorry, but telling like how it is when it comes to residential customers who consume the most. Working for an ISP has really opened my eyes on what goes on. In the end, it doesn't really matter to me - personally, I don't care. As long as they don't cause problems for other customers I'm personally fine with it. I also pointed out I realize customers with high usage aren't always doing those activities though they are not the majority. There's a good chunk of them that just had their machines compromised by a trojan/worm/etc even.
As far "if people like you had influence in development of them fifty years ago, it'd be a scary world..." is going a little overboard. If I had any choice about it everyone would have the choice to have FTTH, caps would be extremely generous if they had to exist, and net neutrality would be a reality. Maybe a little more kicking of Microsoft in the butt too, but can't have everything. |
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