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raye
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join:2000-08-14
Orange, CA

Be interesting to see if this works

I have mixed opinions on whether municipal-owned fiber will work and how good it will be. IMHO it may make sense for those communities where the incumbent just plain suck. Looks like we will finally get a chance to see how well (or how bad) this decision will be for Lafayette residents.


scrummie02
Bentley

join:2004-04-16
Arlington, VA

I agree. I would like to think competition would be offered, or at least private companies can pay to "lease" the fiber lines if someone wants to opt out of state run services for a better private one. I think the project will work if bureaucracy stays out of the way.
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Maxo
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Tallahassee, FL
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reply to raye
said by raye See Profile :

I have mixed opinions on whether municipal-owned fiber will work and how good it will be. IMHO it may make sense for those communities where the incumbent just plain suck. Looks like we will finally get a chance to see how well (or how bad) this decision will be for Lafayette residents.
I think whether or not it works depends largely on how well the implement on the system. I don't think there's anything inherent about it being municipal project that dooms it to failure or gauruntees success.
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landry98

join:2001-08-31
Red Stick
·Cox HSI

reply to raye
years back when the city commissioned their planning for a fiber network for business development, Louisiana State University and local residents, BellSouth (and Cox) said they had no interest in building it, that the existing network was adequate. if my memory serves me right, the incumbents statement denied any prospect of fiber in any form (to the node, to the home, etc) for Lafayette in the foreseeable future.

Kearnstd
Elf Wizard
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join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ
reply to raye
me if i where the judge 3yrs ago id have told bellsouth, deploy a full 21st century broadband network with in 8 months or i greenlight the city and throw out your case.
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Ahrenl

join:2004-10-26
North Andover, MA
·Verizon FIOS

reply to scrummie02
If it's going to be such a miserable failure, then the telco's should just let it go through so they can point to it and say, "see what a miserable failure this will be!?" The fact that the incumbents were willing to spend a like amount (~$3.5m) to fight something that has already been voted on speaks volumes on the viability. Seriously, if it's a horrible failure, they could probably swoop in and buy the network for pennies on the dollar and be rollin..

GhostDoggy

join:2005-05-11
Duluth, GA

Maybe the next time we'll see the city of Lafeyette open a chain of their own not-for-profit grocery stores and gas stations and put the franchisers out of business as well. In fact, let's get rid of Best Buy (haha), car dealerships, etc., etc., etc.

Why should a municipality play god in the free market? Kind of hard to comepte when the other guy ain't looking to make an f-ing dime.

Ahrenl

join:2004-10-26
North Andover, MA
·Verizon FIOS

Communication networks are hardly a free market. Everyone is NOT allowed to build their own network, so network owners will always have a monopoly (non-reproducible asset) power. I don't think the city should get into the service provider business, but building their own networks is absolutely the way to go..

GhostDoggy

join:2005-05-11
Duluth, GA

Unless the municipality builds the network with an open-access to anyone for resale, then its competing unfairly in the free market, and doing so with special conditions.

How should any business take a condition in which its competition get's to make their own rules? Personally, I think the LECs and cable providers should just pack their bags and leave the state. Let the Lafeyette municipals show the state how it cane be done while pleasing their people. Hah!


Maxo
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said by GhostDoggy See Profile :

Maybe the next time we'll see the city of Lafeyette open a chain of their own not-for-profit grocery stores and gas stations and put the franchisers out of business as well. In fact, let's get rid of Best Buy (haha), car dealerships, etc., etc., etc.
What if Best Buy and car dealerships refused to open shop in your town?

Ahrenl

join:2004-10-26
North Andover, MA
·Verizon FIOS

reply to GhostDoggy
said by GhostDoggy See Profile :

Unless the municipality builds the network with an open-access to anyone for resale, then its competing unfairly in the free market, and doing so with special conditions.

How should any business take a condition in which its competition get's to make their own rules? Personally, I think the LECs and cable providers should just pack their bags and leave the state. Let the Lafeyette municipals show the state how it cane be done while pleasing their people. Hah!
I agree, they should open it up.

But then again, how is that different then having a private network owner who also offers service? They set the prices, and decide what services to allow to be resold at what profit margins. So you see, they're really no worse, and I'm pretty sure they'd be happy if both packed it up, since they're trying to replace them.. It's not a "free market" either way.. (unless they open up the muni network)

GhostDoggy

join:2005-05-11
Duluth, GA

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said by GhostDoggy See Profile :

Maybe the next time we'll see the city of Lafeyette open a chain of their own not-for-profit grocery stores and gas stations and put the franchisers out of business as well. In fact, let's get rid of Best Buy (haha), car dealerships, etc., etc., etc.
What if Best Buy and car dealerships refused to open shop in your town?
Are you suggesting that the telephone and or cable provider isn't providing any broadband in Lafayette? I can say that quite a few dollars have been spent in that town for broadband. Maybe the LEC and Cable companies should shut those customers off to support your case.
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