Re: Be interesting to see if this works in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r17896541 en Sat, 05 Dec 2009 18:25:54 EDT Sat, 05 Dec 2009 18:25:54 EDT Re: Be interesting to see if this works http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17921734 GhostDoggy :
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said by GhostDoggy See Profile :

Maybe the next time we'll see the city of Lafeyette open a chain of their own not-for-profit grocery stores and gas stations and put the franchisers out of business as well. In fact, let's get rid of Best Buy (haha), car dealerships, etc., etc., etc.
What if Best Buy and car dealerships refused to open shop in your town?
Are you suggesting that the telephone and or cable provider isn't providing any broadband in Lafayette? I can say that quite a few dollars have been spent in that town for broadband. Maybe the LEC and Cable companies should shut those customers off to support your case.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17921734 Thu, 01 Mar 2007 05:06:52 EDT Re: Be interesting to see if this works http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17900225 Ahrenl :
said by GhostDoggy See Profile :

Unless the municipality builds the network with an open-access to anyone for resale, then its competing unfairly in the free market, and doing so with special conditions.

How should any business take a condition in which its competition get's to make their own rules? Personally, I think the LECs and cable providers should just pack their bags and leave the state. Let the Lafeyette municipals show the state how it cane be done while pleasing their people. Hah!
I agree, they should open it up.

But then again, how is that different then having a private network owner who also offers service? They set the prices, and decide what services to allow to be resold at what profit margins. So you see, they're really no worse, and I'm pretty sure they'd be happy if both packed it up, since they're trying to replace them.. It's not a "free market" either way.. (unless they open up the muni network)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17900225 Sun, 25 Feb 2007 20:47:37 EDT Re: Be interesting to see if this works http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17896541 Maxo :
said by GhostDoggy See Profile :

Maybe the next time we'll see the city of Lafeyette open a chain of their own not-for-profit grocery stores and gas stations and put the franchisers out of business as well. In fact, let's get rid of Best Buy (haha), car dealerships, etc., etc., etc.
What if Best Buy and car dealerships refused to open shop in your town?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17896541 Sun, 25 Feb 2007 08:54:11 EDT Re: Be interesting to see if this works http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17896404 GhostDoggy : Unless the municipality builds the network with an open-access to anyone for resale, then its competing unfairly in the free market, and doing so with special conditions.

How should any business take a condition in which its competition get's to make their own rules? Personally, I think the LECs and cable providers should just pack their bags and leave the state. Let the Lafeyette municipals show the state how it cane be done while pleasing their people. Hah!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17896404 Sun, 25 Feb 2007 07:47:58 EDT Re: Be interesting to see if this works http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17893846 Ahrenl : Communication networks are hardly a free market. Everyone is NOT allowed to build their own network, so network owners will always have a monopoly (non-reproducible asset) power. I don't think the city should get into the service provider business, but building their own networks is absolutely the way to go.. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17893846 Sat, 24 Feb 2007 18:41:29 EDT Re: Be interesting to see if this works http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17891820 GhostDoggy : Maybe the next time we'll see the city of Lafeyette open a chain of their own not-for-profit grocery stores and gas stations and put the franchisers out of business as well. In fact, let's get rid of Best Buy (haha), car dealerships, etc., etc., etc.

Why should a municipality play god in the free market? Kind of hard to comepte when the other guy ain't looking to make an f-ing dime.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17891820 Sat, 24 Feb 2007 11:48:19 EDT Re: Be interesting to see if this works http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17886562 Ahrenl : If it's going to be such a miserable failure, then the telco's should just let it go through so they can point to it and say, "see what a miserable failure this will be!?" The fact that the incumbents were willing to spend a like amount (~$3.5m) to fight something that has already been voted on speaks volumes on the viability. Seriously, if it's a horrible failure, they could probably swoop in and buy the network for pennies on the dollar and be rollin.. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17886562 Fri, 23 Feb 2007 12:05:03 EDT Re: Be interesting to see if this works http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17885978 Kearnstd : me if i where the judge 3yrs ago id have told bellsouth, deploy a full 21st century broadband network with in 8 months or i greenlight the city and throw out your case.
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I have mixed opinions on whether municipal-owned fiber will work and how good it will be. IMHO it may make sense for those communities where the incumbent just plain suck. Looks like we will finally get a chance to see how well (or how bad) this decision will be for Lafayette residents.
I think whether or not it works depends largely on how well the implement on the system. I don't think there's anything inherent about it being municipal project that dooms it to failure or gauruntees success.
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