TScheisskopf
World News Trust
join:2005-02-13
Belvidere, NJ
 ·Sprint Broadband D..
| I have yet to figure out...
Why NJ, the most densely-populated state in the US, with a very high median income, lags so far behind in deployment of so many of these technologies. It can't be the regulations; the state legislature does everything but janitorial services for the telcos and electric companies here. |
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odreian615
join:2006-01-18
Chicago, IL | youcan say that about the US as a whole why our rich country lags behind south korea |
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joelliot
join:2002-01-28
West Warwick, RI | reply to TScheisskopf
It's almost impossible to get a tower put in in NJ |
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firebird
join:2002-03-22
Moline, IL | reply to odreian615
US is a little larger than South Korea!! |
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firebird
join:2002-03-22
Moline, IL | South Korea is 39,000 sq miles
The State of Virginia is 39,000 sq miles... |
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SSidlov
Other Things On My Mind
Premium
join:2000-03-03
Pompton Lakes, NJ
 ·Optimum Online
·Cingular Wireless
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what is with the continuing comparisons to South Korea?
There is no comparison for density in South Korea as SEOUL has 48%+ of the entire So Korea population making it the 2nd densest city in the world lead only by Tokyo. And they live in huge apartment blocks, not suburban homes. New York Metro which is ranked #4 and the densest city in the US, has 50% more sq miles to cover and less than HALF the population. NY Metro has HALF the density per sq mile of Seoul's Metro.
The cost per mile of laying cable, fiber or whatever other tech you may wish gives you one of the highest possible pass-by rates in the world. That means that the return on investment for is at least double and more likely higher due to labor cost differences between the US and So. Korea. (Let's not forget that the So Korean government laid the infrastructure.)
Cablevision aka OOL, covers 70% NY Metro area (NY, NJ, LI, Conn). It offers 15mps/2mps standard service for $49 before discounts, 30/5 mps service for a small premium of $10-15 extra, and is rolling out 50/50 mps in some areas for $199/mo.
The per capita income in So. Korea is about $20K. The per captia income in the US is about $26K in 2008. In Metro NY in 2003, the per capita income is $41K. I say to you, that on a basis of per capita income the percentage for monthly cost of bandwidth in So Korea ($25) and the NY Metro area ($50) are similar. That based on the size of the infrastructure, SoK's (13K miles) being less than a third the size of NY Metro's (CV's is 35K miles and only covers 70% of metro NY) that they are profiting more - especially since the infrastructure itself was built by the government not the companies that offer the services on it, which just lease the 90% overbuild that the government did. But I will also point out to you that while SoK's penetration is 50% of homes with broadband, CV's OOL also has 50% penetration, maybe greater today and has no download caps though they don't like sustained continuous uploads at the maximum rate. So, when everyone brings up So. Korea as the broadband capital of the world, what are they talking about? The 26,000 cyber cafes? The 5 million that play online games each night? Or that they have 10 million on 13Kmiles of fiber infrastructure? Verizon is going to lay 35Kmiles of fiber in West Virginia alone.
I think that the So Korea comparisons have to stop. They are not significant unless you take similar density and sq miles into account. And btw, So K's average speed is 2.5mbps. I got that with my DSL line years ago, actually I qualified for 8mbps but thought that the $99/mo at a time was too high.
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SSidlov
Other Things On My Mind
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join:2000-03-03
Pompton Lakes, NJ
·Optimum Online
·Cingular Wireless
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said by firebird  :South Korea is 39,000 sq miles The State of Virginia is 39,000 sq miles... and WEST Virginia which is not as big as Virginia is going to require 35K miles of fiber while So Korea only has 13Kmiles. They have a lot of uncovered territory, but then only 12% of So Korea's land is actually populated.
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