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 briman27Titans Fan join:2004-01-25 Stratford, NJ | Good Weather/Meteorology Colleges I am currently a sophomore in high school. The career I really want to get into is meteorology. I need to begin considering possible college options. Meteorology is definitely the way I want to go. When I was a little kid I was just as much into the weather as I am now. I actually have on an old home movie someone asking me who does the weather, and I responded with the name of the guy who does the weather on the local ABC affiliate here, who actually still does the weather on that channel. This happened when I was probably around 4 years old, and everyone would always ask me for the weather forecast because I would follow it that closely. Today, I am still like that, so I definitely want to get into meteorology because it is one of the things I love.
What are some possible college options? My dream would be to go to the University of Miami, and my grades are definitely good enough to get in there, as I get nearly straight A's with a B here and there, but I need to consider other options besides that. I would love to go to Miami because I love the warm climate. I just can't stand the cold. I would really enjoy being able to get away from the cold for a while when I am in college. The only other good college I know of for weather/meteorology is Penn State, but the thing I wouldn't like about that is the very cold winters. It would be much closer to home than Miami so I wouldn't have to pay for airfare whenever I want to come home, but I would still prefer Miami. I would like to go to college somewhere in the South where the climate is warm, like Florida, or in Virginia only because I have other family there, but I need to look around. What suggestions for colleges do you guys have? It's not really that important right now, as I won't be in college for over 2 years, but it's a good idea to start considering it. -- Titans Fan Verizon Online DSL - 1.5/384 - $29.95 a month | | |
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1 edit | USA Today had a good topic on that link here.
The article has some good links to get you more information.
New Jersey has three AMS chapters.
EDIT - there are some pros lurking here - I'm hoping they'll post some information and experiences for you.
HTH
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Aristotle | |  61999674Gotta Do What Ya Gotta DoPremium join:2000-09-02 Here kudos:1 | reply to briman27 To be a REAL Meteorologist(as opposed to a teleprompter reader) plan on taking loads of physical and environmental sciences.
Your school counselor would be better with suggestions than a Internet forum. -- He doesn't have issues, he has a subscription. | |  | reply to briman27 I'll chime in with my opinion here, since I ALMOST have my BS degree in Meteorology (entering my senior year). And sorry for this being so long up front, as I would like to help as much as possible.
I will go ahead and plug my school, the University of South Alabama in Mobile, AL. Has a great program. Started offering met degrees in the early 90s and is currently one of the top 10 in the nation as far as enrollment goes (around 100 or so). The school itself enrolls around 13,000.
The program really emphasizes operational meteorology, and from what I have read/heard, if you want to work for the National Weather Service in some sort, then South Alabama is THE school to go to (the reason why initially picked this college). A high percentage of the graduates do hold jobs with the NWS, a few with NASA, etc.
Also, they offer a pretty good broadcast program if that is your cup of tea. A lot of graduates are working around the country at various TV stations. However, research is something that is not that stressed yet since the program is still new. However, it is becoming more important, especially hurricane research since we are along the gulf coast.
So, the first thing I would ask myself before really starting to look for colleges, is what type of meteorology do you want to work around. Operational (like the NWS), research, broadcast, climatology, etc. I would go out to my local NWS office (if that is an option) and volunteer some to see the day to day operations, and figure out if that is what you want to do. Or see if you can do some work at the local tv station.
If you are leaning towards the research side of the subject, and think you may want to continue your education with a Masters and/or PhD, then you might need to begin thinking what your favorite part of the weather is. Hurricanes, severe weather, winter, etc.
Most schools in Florida have a pretty good handle on hurricane research. Florida State was my second choice and is hopefully where I will be going to grad school.
If you like severe weather, I would seriously consider the University of Oklahoma. UO and Penn State are usually considered the "best" schools for meteorology, however, they have very large enrollments, which could be bad if you want a more personal student-teacher relationship. Take a trip to the Oklahoma website. They have just built a state of the art weather research facility, which houses several government agencies as well as where the classes are held. They also work very closely with the SPC and NSSL.
And to chime in some more as to what 61999674 was getting at, plan on taking loads of Math and Physics, if you want to be a real meteorologist. At South Alabama, basically a minor in Math is required to get a met degree. If you don't like, or are not that strong in those areas, start working now. Try to take as much math as you can now, as it will only help in college.
And one other thing, and another plug for my school - if you are a good student, getting the grades, and have a good ACT score (27 and higher) then you will get a full ride to South Alabama very easily since it is still a relatively small school.
Good luck, and if you have any other questions let me know Todd | |  dslwanterIt's comingPremium join:2002-12-16 Niles, OH Reviews:
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| reply to briman27 Way back when I was in highschool, I was on the same boat as you. I'm still in college at my age but hey, who actually graduates in 4 years anymore? Currently I'm going for Information Technology.
Would I consider majoring in meteorology if I were to start over again? Absolutely.
Todd's advice is very good and I learned some of the same things he just told you when I was looking for schools. At the time I graduated high school, Telecommunications was the first thing on my list, then weather. But when I was 7 (nearly 17 years ago), I have a home movie of me doing the weather at the Canfield Fair. One of the local news stations had a stand set up where they would tape you doing the weather.
Once I started college, it just seemed too far fetched for me. I wanted to try radio first. Didn't like what I learned in College and after doing research it wasn't worth the tuition to go for. I switched to Information Technology hoping that the industry would continue to boom as more things become internet-related.
When I was in 8th grade and we had to choose what we wanted to do when we got older, my choices were radio and meteorology. I wrote to a local meteorologist, if I can find the letter I'll PM you some of his advice.
Best of luck, -Sean -- "You're as worthless as a screen door on a submarine!" Check out my Internet Radio Station & DJ Service, »www.thebomb102.com. | |  briman27Titans Fan join:2004-01-25 Stratford, NJ 1 edit | reply to rdncktodd said by rdncktodd:I'll chime in with my opinion here, since I ALMOST have my BS degree in Meteorology (entering my senior year). And sorry for this being so long up front, as I would like to help as much as possible. I will go ahead and plug my school, the University of South Alabama in Mobile, AL. Has a great program. Started offering met degrees in the early 90s and is currently one of the top 10 in the nation as far as enrollment goes (around 100 or so). The school itself enrolls around 13,000. The program really emphasizes operational meteorology, and from what I have read/heard, if you want to work for the National Weather Service in some sort, then South Alabama is THE school to go to (the reason why initially picked this college). A high percentage of the graduates do hold jobs with the NWS, a few with NASA, etc. Also, they offer a pretty good broadcast program if that is your cup of tea. A lot of graduates are working around the country at various TV stations. However, research is something that is not that stressed yet since the program is still new. However, it is becoming more important, especially hurricane research since we are along the gulf coast. So, the first thing I would ask myself before really starting to look for colleges, is what type of meteorology do you want to work around. Operational (like the NWS), research, broadcast, climatology, etc. I would go out to my local NWS office (if that is an option) and volunteer some to see the day to day operations, and figure out if that is what you want to do. Or see if you can do some work at the local tv station. If you are leaning towards the research side of the subject, and think you may want to continue your education with a Masters and/or PhD, then you might need to begin thinking what your favorite part of the weather is. Hurricanes, severe weather, winter, etc. Most schools in Florida have a pretty good handle on hurricane research. Florida State was my second choice and is hopefully where I will be going to grad school. If you like severe weather, I would seriously consider the University of Oklahoma. UO and Penn State are usually considered the "best" schools for meteorology, however, they have very large enrollments, which could be bad if you want a more personal student-teacher relationship. Take a trip to the Oklahoma website. They have just built a state of the art weather research facility, which houses several government agencies as well as where the classes are held. They also work very closely with the SPC and NSSL. And to chime in some more as to what 61999674  was getting at, plan on taking loads of Math and Physics, if you want to be a real meteorologist. At South Alabama, basically a minor in Math is required to get a met degree. If you don't like, or are not that strong in those areas, start working now. Try to take as much math as you can now, as it will only help in college. And one other thing, and another plug for my school - if you are a good student, getting the grades, and have a good ACT score (27 and higher) then you will get a full ride to South Alabama very easily since it is still a relatively small school. Good luck, and if you have any other questions let me know Todd Well my dream would be to be a meteorologist on The Weather Channel, but I know that is not an easy job to get, and you must have a lot of prior experience before they would even think about hiring you. I would love to be out in the field covering severe weather, particularly hurricanes. Whenever there is a hurricane making landfall, I will watch The Weather Channel all day long to watch the broadcasts from the people out in the field covering the hurricane, and I would just love to have that job. I would just love to have a weak hurricane roll through here because I love hurricanes, and I would really enjoy covering them as a meteorologist. So basically I want to be a broadcast meteorologist, and the best place to start would probably be on a local TV station.
Math is actually my best subject. I like math, and am very good at it. I had Algebra II last semester and got an A in the class, and on the final exam I got a 96. Next year I'm moving up to Pre-Calc, and then as a senior I will take Calculus. I will probably take Pre-Calc Honors even though Pre-Calc is my school's hardest math class and I've never been in an honors class before, but it'll probably help me out in the longrun. My Algebra II teacher actually recommended me for Honors.
This year for science I am in Global Science, and we will be doing a unit on weather at the end of the year. Next year I will be in Chemistry, but then after that I am done with science. I have no experience in Physics and probably will not even after high school, which probably is not a good thing. Physics is basically just an extra class that you can take after Chemistry, but there's no room in my schedule for it.
Regarding my grades, they are very good. Last year I got all A's and B's, and this year I've gotten all A's so far, so grades will not be a problem for me. -- Titans Fan
Verizon Online DSL - 1.5/384 - $29.95 a month | |  | It is a good thing that you will be taking pre-cal and then calculus your Senior year. That will really give you a leg up on the math. Some colleges may even wave calculus I for you, depending on your grades.
It is also a good thing that you are taking chemistry. Some schools do require at least an entry level chemistry class for a met degree (South Alabama does not, but I believe they are changing that soon). However, I would strongly recommend, if you can find room at all, to take physics.
While in high school, I took a physics class, and it really helped out once I took my college level physics (which I must say have been my hardest classes thus far). Physics and math both end up being very important for Meteorology - regardless if you want to do broadcast or something else.
Since you are looking at broadcast, I would really try to call local tv stations to at least get some kind of tour, or maybe to volunteer, anything to get your name out there early. I have come to find out the meteorology is a very competitive field, so anything that you can do early on, while in high school and in college, to promote yourself, is always a good thing. | |  Hayward K A R - 1 2 0 CPremium join:2000-07-13 Key West, FL kudos:1 2 edits | reply to briman27 Actually if you don't mind freezing your butt most of the year, Lyndon State College in VT, probably still has a pretty good BS program.
When I was there in the late 70's they made the mistake of not giving the department head tenure.... so he said FU and moved to Atanta and started the the Weather Channel....
Guess he showed them 
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| |  briman27Titans Fan join:2004-01-25 Stratford, NJ | reply to rdncktodd said by rdncktodd:It is a good thing that you will be taking pre-cal and then calculus your Senior year. That will really give you a leg up on the math. Some colleges may even wave calculus I for you, depending on your grades. It is also a good thing that you are taking chemistry. Some schools do require at least an entry level chemistry class for a met degree (South Alabama does not, but I believe they are changing that soon). However, I would strongly recommend, if you can find room at all, to take physics. While in high school, I took a physics class, and it really helped out once I took my college level physics (which I must say have been my hardest classes thus far). Physics and math both end up being very important for Meteorology - regardless if you want to do broadcast or something else. Since you are looking at broadcast, I would really try to call local tv stations to at least get some kind of tour, or maybe to volunteer, anything to get your name out there early. I have come to find out the meteorology is a very competitive field, so anything that you can do early on, while in high school and in college, to promote yourself, is always a good thing. If I really needed to, I could squeeze Physics into my schedule senior year, and the way you are talking I most likely will do that since it will really help me out when I get to college. Would you recommend taking honors level math and science classes? As I said earlier, my Algebra II teacher recommended me for Pre-Calc Honors, so that is what I am taking next year. Then senior year I will probably take Calculus Honors. However, I did not sign up for Chemistry Honors because everyone I know that has even had a lower level chemistry has done really poorly in it. Even my guidance councelor said that if I take the level right below honors in Chemistry it'll be fine since it is so hard, even though my grades are good. Physics I don't know what level I will take, because I really don't know how hard it is because I don't know anyone that has had it, but that's not until senior year. -- Titans Fan Verizon Online DSL - 1.5/384 - $29.95 a month | |  | I would go ahead and take the honors level courses, as they will only push you harder, and get you better prepared for college.
Once again, good luck, and if you have any other questions, I'll be happy to give my opinion on it.
Meteorology is a very exciting field! | |  briman27Titans Fan join:2004-01-25 Stratford, NJ | said by rdncktodd:I would go ahead and take the honors level courses, as they will only push you harder, and get you better prepared for college. Once again, good luck, and if you have any other questions, I'll be happy to give my opinion on it. Meteorology is a very exciting field! Just out of curiosity, what kind of meteorology are you going into...broadcasting, research, etc? What classes have you had so far, and how hard do you find the classes? -- Titans Fan Verizon Online DSL - 1.5/384 - $29.95 a month | |  | When I began college, I was hoping to get a job right out of school with the NWS, so operational. I love forecasting the weather. However, almost all my teachers have recommended to me that I should continue to get my masters and maybe PhD due to my grades - so I'm going to grad school and I have recently began getting interested in the research side because of this.
So, research and operational I suppose.
Weather class wise (these are both classes I have already taken and some which I have left) - Atmospheric Processes (which is similar to Intro to Meteorology), General Meteorology, Climatology, Severe Weather, Atmospheric Dynamics I & II, Meteorological Instrumentation, Radar Meteorology, Physical Meteorology, Hydrology, Tropical Meteorology Seminar, Satellite Meteorology Seminar, Synoptic Meteorology I & II, Mesoscale, Weather Forecasting I & II, and I think that might be it - there may be a couple of electives I'm missing....
Out of those, Dynamics I & II have been the hardest and ones I've had to put a lot of time into. It is basically one class that is spread out over two semesters and the topic of the class is the equations that govern the atmosphere, so it is where all the math and physics starts to really tie into the subject. We derive all the equations, and simplify them so that we are able to solve them, and then put them to use. | |  briman27Titans Fan join:2004-01-25 Stratford, NJ | said by rdncktodd:When I began college, I was hoping to get a job right out of school with the NWS, so operational. I love forecasting the weather. However, almost all my teachers have recommended to me that I should continue to get my masters and maybe PhD due to my grades - so I'm going to grad school and I have recently began getting interested in the research side because of this. So, research and operational I suppose. Weather class wise (these are both classes I have already taken and some which I have left) - Atmospheric Processes (which is similar to Intro to Meteorology), General Meteorology, Climatology, Severe Weather, Atmospheric Dynamics I & II, Meteorological Instrumentation, Radar Meteorology, Physical Meteorology, Hydrology, Tropical Meteorology Seminar, Satellite Meteorology Seminar, Synoptic Meteorology I & II, Mesoscale, Weather Forecasting I & II, and I think that might be it - there may be a couple of electives I'm missing.... Out of those, Dynamics I & II have been the hardest and ones I've had to put a lot of time into. It is basically one class that is spread out over two semesters and the topic of the class is the equations that govern the atmosphere, so it is where all the math and physics starts to really tie into the subject. We derive all the equations, and simplify them so that we are able to solve them, and then put them to use. Ok, thanks for that. Just one more question...Why did you decide to go to the University of South Alabama? Was it close to where you lived, or did you just look at college options and that was the one you liked best? -- Titans Fan Verizon Online DSL - 1.5/384 - $29.95 a month | |  imtim83Premium join:2001-06-03 Kenner, LA 1 edit | reply to briman27 I always wanted to be a tornado or hurricane chaser! The thrill of seeing a hurricane and tornado almost everyday would be awesome!
The best thing ever would be up close and personal with a F5 Tornado and a Cat. 5 Hurricane! I would be so excited I would jump up and down lol!
Does anyone know if you need a college degree to be a tornado or hurricane chaser ? I am guessing yes ?
The reason I am asking because I always see people as tornado or hurricanes chasers as people with their own equipment and such.
Like for example on Discovery, I think it was, they had these sisters who did Tornado chasing, this guy who wanted to go inside a tornado, and a bunch of other chasers! | |  | reply to briman27 I had it down to South Alabama, Florida State, and University of Alabama in Huntsville. UAH does not offer an undergrad degree in meteorology, but rather you can get a Mathematics degree with an atmospheric science minor. They do however, have a graduate program in atmospheric science.
So because they didn't strictly offer an undergrad degree in met, I decided against them. I live in Alabama, however, Florida State offered to waive out of state tuition for me, but the entire package was not enough. South Alabama gave me a lot more money.
Also, Florida States program is much larger than USA, which is both good and bad. They are a big research facility, so they kind of cater to the students which are there for graduate school. In my opinion, student-teacher relationships would probably not be very good, as class sizes are pretty large. When I started at South, the met program was still pretty new (only around 9-10 years old), so class sizes were relatively small, and that is a good thing to me.
That, plus out of high school my main goal was operational, and everything I heard was South is the best place to go if you want to work for the NWS. Their entire program was designed around the requirements to work for the NWS, and it was designed by professors who used to work at various levels in the NWS. | |  | reply to imtim83 You do not HAVE to have a college degree to chase, as anyone could technically go out and chase if they wanted - however that is not advisable!
It is good to have some kind of knowledge about what you are doing, i.e. you know the ins and outs of radar, upper level/surface maps, just all things that relate to the situation, so that you know where to be at the right time, and in order to not be placed in a situation that is dangerous - and these are usually things that you receive through education or experience.
And a lot of those people that you see on TV or hear about that chase who have their own equipment are sometimes sponsored through a university or government agency, as that equipment is pretty expensive. And I would imagine they just don't sponsor anyone.
However, I know that if you wanted to chase tornadoes and such, there are companies/businesses which will take you out with them for a week or so and chase so you can observe, however it can get pricey. They usually make you sign some sort of wavier also, so as they are not held liable for anything that might happen - which goes to show you just how dangerous it is. | |  briman27Titans Fan join:2004-01-25 Stratford, NJ | reply to rdncktodd said by rdncktodd:I had it down to South Alabama, Florida State, and University of Alabama in Huntsville. UAH does not offer an undergrad degree in meteorology, but rather you can get a Mathematics degree with an atmospheric science minor. They do however, have a graduate program in atmospheric science. So because they didn't strictly offer an undergrad degree in met, I decided against them. I live in Alabama, however, Florida State offered to waive out of state tuition for me, but the entire package was not enough. South Alabama gave me a lot more money. Also, Florida States program is much larger than USA, which is both good and bad. They are a big research facility, so they kind of cater to the students which are there for graduate school. In my opinion, student-teacher relationships would probably not be very good, as class sizes are pretty large. When I started at South, the met program was still pretty new (only around 9-10 years old), so class sizes were relatively small, and that is a good thing to me. That, plus out of high school my main goal was operational, and everything I heard was South is the best place to go if you want to work for the NWS. Their entire program was designed around the requirements to work for the NWS, and it was designed by professors who used to work at various levels in the NWS. Do you know any colleges that are specifically good for doing broadcasting? You say that the South is the best place to go for operational, but do you know of any place to go that is best for broadcasting?
On to what imtim83 said, can any meteorologist go out and track hurricanes or tornadoes? I would love to do something like that, and broadcast it back to a TV station, like The Weather Channel does during severe weather, especially hurricanes. As I said in a previous post, I would love to be out in the field reporting live from within a hurricane. I watch The Weather Channel all day when hurricanes are making landfall because I would enjoy doing that so much. -- Titans Fan Verizon Online DSL - 1.5/384 - $29.95 a month | |  imtim83Premium join:2001-06-03 Kenner, LA | said by briman27:On to what imtim83 said, can any meteorologist go out and track hurricanes or tornadoes? I would love to do something like that, and broadcast it back to a TV station, like The Weather Channel does during severe weather, especially hurricanes. As I said in a previous post, I would love to be out in the field reporting live from within a hurricane. I watch The Weather Channel all day when hurricanes are making landfall because I would enjoy doing that so much. Don't worry your wish is going to become a reality a lot sooner than you think! 
You may not even be out of high school or college by the time your wish comes true! Thats if you stay for the Major Hurricane that hits the east coast. --
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»Re: newzbin.com file datebase now 50 days | |  briman27Titans Fan join:2004-01-25 Stratford, NJ | said by imtim83:said by briman27:On to what imtim83 said, can any meteorologist go out and track hurricanes or tornadoes? I would love to do something like that, and broadcast it back to a TV station, like The Weather Channel does during severe weather, especially hurricanes. As I said in a previous post, I would love to be out in the field reporting live from within a hurricane. I watch The Weather Channel all day when hurricanes are making landfall because I would enjoy doing that so much. Don't worry your wish is going to become a reality a lot sooner than you think!  You may not even be out of high school or college by the time your wish comes true! Thats if you stay for the Major Hurricane that hits the east coast. I was hoping it'd come last year, but not even close lol...I was actually down in the Outer Banks in NC when that one hurricane was moving up the Atlantic and ended up hitting New England I think. I was watching TV and I see Hurricane Watch on the screen, I got so excited, but then I watch The Weather Channel and see the projected path and its not even close. It made for some awesome waves out in the ocean though, which was great. -- Titans Fan Verizon Online DSL - 1.5/384 - $29.95 a month | |  imtim83Premium join:2001-06-03 Kenner, LA | said by briman27:said by imtim83:said by briman27:On to what imtim83 said, can any meteorologist go out and track hurricanes or tornadoes? I would love to do something like that, and broadcast it back to a TV station, like The Weather Channel does during severe weather, especially hurricanes. As I said in a previous post, I would love to be out in the field reporting live from within a hurricane. I watch The Weather Channel all day when hurricanes are making landfall because I would enjoy doing that so much. Don't worry your wish is going to become a reality a lot sooner than you think!  You may not even be out of high school or college by the time your wish comes true! Thats if you stay for the Major Hurricane that hits the east coast. I was hoping it'd come last year, but not even close lol...I was actually down in the Outer Banks in NC when that one hurricane was moving up the Atlantic and ended up hitting New England I think. I was watching TV and I see Hurricane Watch on the screen, I got so excited, but then I watch The Weather Channel and see the projected path and its not even close. It made for some awesome waves out in the ocean though, which was great. Yeah. I don't really like the weather channel because they seem to not really be that good. I don't really trust them but I will watch them if there is bad weather around, if I have to.
I hate when I see people surfing out in the hurricane's waves because they don't realize how dangerous that is! Its the most deadly part of a Hurricane! --
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