Kearnstd
Elf Wizard
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join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ
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best way to tackle the DMCA isnt head on but weasel exceptions to it and fair use clauses into things like bills that get more cops on the streets. people love to have more cops in bad areas so ya slip your DMCA killer into that an weasel it through.
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Doctor Four
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Dallas, TX
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It's just my cynicism of the entire political process showing.
I think the other side likely has a lot more money to throw
around.
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AB
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join:2006-04-04
Leesburg, VA
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said by Doctor Four  :His previous bill, the DMCRA, failed after heavy opposition from the big media lobby, because there were fair use provisions in it that allowed users to bypass the DMCA. Even though this bill is lacking those provisions, IMO it still has little or no chance of success. This thing hardly encompasses sweeping changes, and the mere fact that it would go to a vote certainly gives it at least a "chance" of success.
I always remember what Jim Valvano said before his N.C. State basketball team beat the "unbeatable" Houston Cougars in the 1982 (or '83?) championship game, when reporters were asking him what it felt like to "not stand a chance" in the game--
"No chance?? There's only two teams on the floor in this game, and we're one of them-- so we GOTTA have a "CHANCE!""  |
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cdru
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join:2003-05-14
Fort Wayne, IN | reply to Middieman
The idealist in me says it will because it makes sense.
The realist in me says it won't because it makes sense.
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Doctor Four
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Dallas, TX
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| reply to Middieman
His previous bill, the DMCRA, failed after heavy
opposition from the big media lobby, because there
were fair use provisions in it that allowed users to
bypass the DMCA.
Even though this bill is lacking those provisions, IMO it
still has little or no chance of success.
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Morac
join:2001-08-30
Riverside, NJ
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said by RyanPatton :You think Democratic that controlled the House/Senate will say NO on the bill or will they approved it? Actually while Republicans are business friendly, Democrats are Hollywood friendly (Gore even won an Oscar). I'm willing to say neither votes for this bill.
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spy1
Welcome to Amerika
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join:2002-06-24
Charlotte, NC
| reply to Middieman
Well, it certainly can't hurt to use this link:
»action.eff.org/site/Advocacy?id=271 to email your Rep if you are in favor of it (I also c&p'd their letter into a FAX, which I then sent to my Reps' Wash. and Charlotte offices.
Isn't anything to stem the tide better than nothing? Especially when it's been made so easy-to-do? Pete |
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juniorx
join:2006-02-05
St John'S, NL | reply to Middieman
This wont pass. If it does, the judge should mark a big LOL on the draft |
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD
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said by BF69 :]Dems don't have a 2/3 majority to override a veto by Bush though You assume that all of members of the House and Senate in the Democrat party will vote for this bill. Don't forget that it was a Democrat president, Bill Clinton, who signed this POS into law, and one of its major sponsors was a former Democrat Senator from South Carolina, Fritz "Disney" Hollings.
That being said, it would be nice to see some of the provisions of the DMCA rolled back.
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TKJunkMail
Enjoy the sun
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join:2002-03-03
Avalon, NJ
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New Fair USE Act doesn't deliver much ...
...according to Ars Technica article:
»arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20···934.html
But can the FAIR USE Act deliver? A cursory investigation suggests that the bill won't make much of a dent in the DMCA. In its present form, the FAIR USE Act is effectively a watered-down version of Boucher's DMCRA...
The DMCRA would have made any "fair use" of digital goods legal, regardless of anti-circumvention laws. The FAIR USE Act does not provide this, as it was a major sticking point with the content industry.
If passed, the FAIR USE Act will amend the DMCA to codify recent exceptions granted to the anti-circumvention rules by the Register of Copyrights, which include some allowances for obsolete technologies and cell phone unlocking.
Yet again, the bill does not appear to deliver on what most observers want: clear protection for making personal use copies of encrypted materials. There is no allowance for consumers to make backups of DVDs, to strip encryption from music purchased online so that it can be played anywhere, or to generally do any of the things that the DMCA made illegal in one fell swoop.
The bill does seek to place limits on statutory damages stemming from infringement, including contributory infringement, inducement of infringement, vicarious liability or other indirect infringement. In doing so, the bill will seek to codify the law regarding inducement and contributory infringement to ease fears among technology companies stemming from the fallout of MGM v Grokster.
Basically, their take is the bill is designed to protect companies making player hardware and no one else. There is nothing in there for end users.
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Camelot One
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join:2001-11-21
Sarasota, FL
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The bill itself is a good bill, and it has no financial gain for Congress. For this reason, I still think it will fail. IF it passes, it will be with several attachments on unrelated things, all of which will be somehow profitable for Congressmen.
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RyanPatton
join:2004-12-18
Yoder, CO | reply to BF69
maybe President Bush will support it? Yes, they don't have 2/3 of the vote but if they can get Republican support on their side they can override Bush. |
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
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said by RyanPatton :You think Democratic that controlled the House/Senate will say NO on the bill or will they approved it? Dems don't have a 2/3 majority to override a veto by Bush though |
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RyanPatton
join:2004-12-18
Yoder, CO
| reply to Camelot One
You never know Camelot One, they might pass it. I sure agreed with Democrat saying and he truly got his point across about unfairness and abuse that RIAA are doing.
You think Democratic that controlled the House/Senate will say NO on the bill or will they approved it?
If they approved the bill. How will you feel? That's the 1st step in the right direction to discredit the abusing power RIAA been using lately against innocent people randomly. |
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rawwhide
Zer0
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Zero
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said by Camelot One :Hmm....being able to use a product you've paid for how you like.....Nah, it'll never pass.  I agree. It makes to much sense and is to smart to actually pass. 
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cableties
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join:2005-01-27 | reply to Camelot One
$2 says nay. Unless there is $2Billion in pork attached.  |
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Camelot One
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join:2001-11-21
Sarasota, FL
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Hmm....being able to use a product you've paid for how you like.....Nah, it'll never pass. |
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Middieman
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join:2001-02-05
Elkins Park, PA | Sounds good. Anyone else think it won't pass?
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