Re: Key Part of the Article in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r17919411 en Sun, 29 Nov 2009 06:47:45 EDT Sun, 29 Nov 2009 06:47:45 EDT Re: Key Part of the Article http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17920099 Claybraker :
said by wilbilt See Profile :

Many older homes have daisy-chained phone and coax wiring, which is useless for today's technologies.

Back when I used to try and make HPNA 2 work, looped wiring was fine. It was the newer houses with CAT5 home runs (bridge-tap) that gave me ulcers.

I think you're reading too much into this about the DeathStar owning your inside wiring. It's really very simple. In order to meet customer expectations, they've got to get the signal from the NID to the device inside the premise.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17920099 Wed, 28 Feb 2007 21:20:27 EDT Re: Key Part of the Article http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17920052 mlemon :
said by kherr See Profile :

Didn't read the article. But if they consider it part of "their" network, does that mean that "they" have to maintain it ??
I was thinking the same thing. My house was built in 1929, and if they want to own the copper in my house, they can come in and replace it all!
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said by PDXPLT See Profile :

said by wilbilt :

Many older homes have daisy-chained phone and coax wiring, which is useless for today's technologies.
Not true. Both MoCA and HomePNA are designed to work well on such topologies. If they didn't, why would they bother?
Oh noes....say it ain't so! I think of my parents' home, built in 1968, with a single loop of untwisted, unshielded, and unrestrained phone wiring going from room to room. They want to pass data on that Chit? And claim "ownership"?

The spurious emissions alone will cause 3-eyed babies soon enough, you'll see...;)
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said by wilbilt :

Many older homes have daisy-chained phone and coax wiring, which is useless for today's technologies.
Not true. Both MoCA and HomePNA are designed to work well on such topologies. If they didn't, why would they bother?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17919411 Wed, 28 Feb 2007 19:40:03 EDT Re: Key Part of the Article http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17919387 wilbilt :
said by Matt See Profile :

I think a key part of the article is that the exec stated they are starting to consider the copper wire inside your home as part of THEIR network.

Very interesting.
They pretty much lost that battle 30+ years ago. Your home = your wiring. Many older homes have daisy-chained phone and coax wiring, which is useless for today's technologies.

It does bring concern, though...first the re-assimilation of Ma Bell, and then the "we own your wiring" thing. Curious.
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Very interesting.
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