GeekNJ
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Re: [OOL] OOL Boost performance decrease when connected to route
said by batterup  :Very nice, so you can't show another ISP that has as big a problem as Cablevision losing speed through a router. READ THE POST NUMBNUTS! |
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batterup
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| said by GeekNJ :said by batterup :Very nice, so you can't show another ISP that has as big a problem as Cablevision losing speed through a router. READ THE POST NUMBNUTS! Notice how long and loud the frustration is permitted to continue. Facts are facts and I don't need capitol letters to state them. Cablevision has more speed degradation through a router then any other. |
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GeekNJ
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1 edit | No, every single router that doesn't provide max speed on OOL in 15/2 or BOOST because the router isn't capable will 100% LIMIT YOU ON VERIZON FIOS for any plan that matches or exceeds CV's download speed.
Every one of those routers will cause you to be capped on FIOS.
The router, liar, is the problem. The ISP is not the problem. The speed is not the problem. The medium is not the problem. The PC is not the problem. The router, Mr Liar, is the problem on every single ISP that provides 15mb or higher speed.
You are a liar no matter whether you use lower case, upper case, mixed case, bold or underline.
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GeekNJ
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Batterup is wrong again.
One would think, out of just sheer luck, he'd be right at least once, about something. But alas, he's batting a perfect 0. |
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said by batterup :Very nice, so you can't show another ISP that has as big a problem as Cablevision losing speed through a router. Do you really think childish name calling will keep people from seeing the facts? Please provide proof of "This is an old Cablevision secret capping trick. Jim figures if you are using a router you are sharing the connection and caps it"......proof over and above your baseless claims that this is a "fact".
Please provide proof of your *that didn't work, let me try and wiggle out of it with this one* claim that CV, when using a compliant router, loses speed through said router....proof over and above your baseless claims that this is a "fact".
Here's a "fact" for you....you are a troll and are misleading people who come here for help. You must be getting a kickback from Verizon. I hope they are paying you well.
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said by batterup :said by jaa :That faq say nothing about routers that limit your speed - it lists router THAT DO NOT limit speed with OOL. You are not happy with my pointing out the short comings of OOL. Now that your logic has failed you resort to gutter tactics of name calling. Your history of insulting and brow beating posters into silence that don’t agree with the Cablevision manifesto will not work with me. If there is a FAQ about what routers don't limit speed it shows that most routers do limit OOL speed. That is the essence and spirit of what I said. Liar. I do nothing of the sort - you are the only one I call a liar, moron, and idiot. And yes, I do realize that is just pointing out the obvious.
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said by batterup :Show me where another broadband provider has as much speed loss through a router as Cablevision. Coincidence? I don't think so. There may not be indisputable proof of secret capping as there is with 15/2 service but something is causing only Cablevision to have the router speed penalty. Few ISPs offer the speeds of OOL. Those that do, have the problem. Besides being a moron, idiot, liar, and troll, you also can't read or have very little retention. You already made that same assinine assertion earlier in this thread, and Streetspirit responded by quoting information posted by an ISP concerning routers and slowdowns - posted by the ISP, not on some forum.
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nypix9
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Holbrook, NY | reply to reccakun
8 pages, but when I first upgraded I didn't see a speed increase. They told me to take the router out and the speed was fine. I upgraded my routers firmware and then it was golden. Netgear WGR614. YMMV. |
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| said by nypix9 :8 pages, but when I first upgraded I didn't see a speed increase. They told me to take the router out and the speed was fine. I upgraded my routers firmware and then it was golden. Netgear WGR614. YMMV. Take the router out and use only one computer that is what Cablevision wants. |
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GeekNJ
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Waldwick, NJ | Why - his router works fine once he updated the firmware on his router.
More FUD!  |
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batterup
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1 edit | said by GeekNJ :Why - his router works fine once he updated the firmware on his router. More FUD! That is because the OP is l33t. The great unwashed would not know enough to upgrade the firmware. The great unwashed would get full speed with one computer of suffer the router cap with two computers.
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GeekNJ
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| The router is the issue. Your post above states:
said by batterup :Take the router out and use only one computer that is what Cablevision wants. CV doesn't care. They even provide routers as promos from time to time. So, you are providing more mis-information again.
Like I said - more FUD on your part. You are so sad!
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Excuse me, but there has to be a vested interest for devoting so much of your time to fill this board with ridiculous, outright incorrect and proven wrong assertions. Wben you're proven wrong, you play the shill card.
I have a question for you. What exactly is YOUR motivation in all of this? Or are you just a total nut who fell in love with the phone company.
Really now, don't you have anything better to do? This is funny to an extent. It's beginning to become sad and I'm really beginning to question your sanity.
added: You don't seem like a young man, and I really would expect a little more wisdom and restraint. Excuse me for getting personal, but dude, we don't want you to have a heart attack because of this. Take a breather and live your life for a while, forgetting about telecom.
I know that as a telecom employee, the last thing I want to do is bring this nonsense home with me. 
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batterup
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| said by StreetSpirit :Excuse me, but there has to be a vested interest for devoting so much of your time to fill this board with ridiculous, outright incorrect and proven wrong assertions. Wben you're proven wrong, you play the shill card. I had OOL and Cablevision played me for a fool. They secretly capped me and then made me dance a little jig to get uncapped. That is the main reason I point out Cablevision's tricks and hustles.
Now let us look at what wassaid by nypix9 :8 pages, but when I first upgraded I didn't see a speed increase. They told me to take the router out and the speed was fine. Cablevision told the OP to take the router out, Cablevision did not offer any other help. That is all I pointed out. Cablevision is more then happy to have a large number of subscribers use routers that hobble their speed or not use a router and be limited to one computer. That is all I am pointing out. |
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GeekNJ
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| said by batterup :Cablevision told the OP to take the router out, Cablevision did not offer any other help. That is all I pointed out. Cablevision is more then happy to have a large number of subscribers use routers that hobble their speed or not use a router and be limited to one computer. That is all I am pointing out. Verizon FIOS won't help me with a router other then the one they provide. Read the Verizon forum. Why should they help with customer equipment they don't control. Nothing but a big "duh" on that one.
Your OOL router comment is also completely baseless. One computer connected directly to the cable modem can in 1 hour use more bandwidth then an entire home network in that same amount of time could when behind a router. Bandwidth/speed has nothing to do with what is physically connected. MORE FUD!!
And of course, you're changing your tune in each and every post as you are shown to be blowing smoke. Your previous comment which StreetSpirit replied to was the poster was elite because he could upgrade the firmware on a device he purchased on his own. Prior to that, you claimed CV caps when using a modem. More FUD! Prior to that, all in this thread, you claimed CV would provide dial-up speeds if it wasn't for FIOS. CV provided 10mb when Verizon, if they could provide service at all, was 1.5mb. Again, more FUD! I'm sure I missed a few other FUD areas just in this one thread alone.
"Nothing but FUD" is what you should change "I can not tell a lie" to.
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batterup
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| said by GeekNJ :said by batterup :Cablevision told the OP to take the router out, Cablevision did not offer any other help. That is all I pointed out. Cablevision is more then happy to have a large number of subscribers use routers that hobble their speed or not use a router and be limited to one computer. That is all I am pointing out. Verizon FIOS won't help me with a router other then the one they provide. Read the Verizon forum. Why should they help with customer equipment they don't control. Nothing but a big "duh" on that one. Your OOL router comment is also completely baseless. One computer connected directly to the cable modem can in 1 hour use more bandwidth then an entire home network in that same amount of time could when behind a router. Bandwidth/speed has nothing to do with what is physically connected. MORE FUD!! And of course, you're changing your tune in each and every post as you are shown to be blowing smoke. Your previous comment which StreetSpirit replied to was the poster was elite because he could upgrade the firmware on a device he purchased on his own. Prior to that, you claimed CV caps when using a modem. More FUD! Prior to that, all in this thread, you claimed CV would provide dial-up speeds if it wasn't for FIOS. CV provided 10mb when Verizon, if they could provide service at all, was 1.5mb. Again, more FUD! I'm sure I missed a few other FUD areas just in this one thread alone. "Nothing but FUD" is what you should change "I can not tell a lie" to. You left out my pointing out that a hacker can clone your modem address and packet sniff every connection on the node. |
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| said by batterup :You left out my pointing out that a hacker can clone your modem address and packet sniff every connection on the node. Yes, more unsubstantiated FUD. I'm sure there's more if I cared to read them all. I think the point is obvious to anyone coming here... batterup spews FUD.
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said by batterup :said by StreetSpirit :Excuse me, but there has to be a vested interest for devoting so much of your time to fill this board with ridiculous, outright incorrect and proven wrong assertions. Wben you're proven wrong, you play the shill card. I had OOL and Cablevision played me for a fool. They secretly capped me and then made me dance a little jig to get uncapped. That is the main reason I point out Cablevision's tricks and hustles. Now let us look at what was said by nypix9 :8 pages, but when I first upgraded I didn't see a speed increase. They told me to take the router out and the speed was fine. Cablevision told the OP to take the router out, Cablevision did not offer any other help. That is all I pointed out. Cablevision is more then happy to have a large number of subscribers use routers that hobble their speed or not use a router and be limited to one computer. That is all I am pointing out. Sure , that's understandable. But wasn't this a year ago if not more? Time to maybe let it go?
But as far as I can tell, today, you're doing fine with Verizon ADSL and will soon have FIOS in Netcong.
Whch leads me to believe that you're happy with your ISP and your internet connection. As far as other services, I believe you have Satellite but could be wrong.
Which again leads me to the question. Even if they weren't up front with you or treated you poorly (and I had this experience several times too and still have an apology letter from Cablevision courtesy of Wilt to prove it), the fact is you no longer have a business relationship with Cablevision, which is the ultimate goal when you're disappointed by a company providing a service.
Which yet again brings us down the road of isn't 1, 1.5 or however many years it's been enough time to work it out of your system? Or do you plan on being here for the duration of Cablevision's existence? In which case I'm sorry to say they will probably outlive you (and most of us.)
See what I'm trying to get at? It's silly to argue with Jaa and Geek or myself as we know the facts, often better than the tech support people. And it's unfair and even cruel to post misleading information in reply to request for info from new users.
You and I know damn well Boost doesn't have any more problems working behind a router than any other similar speed service. You need to have enough router RAM and horsepower. Firmware plays a huge part.
Another thing. You're giving people very little credit. My next door neighbor who knows ZERO about computers was able to upgrade his router firmware on his own by calling Netgear. People aren't as helpless as you believe.
Many simply DONT CARE about the difference between "optimal super-tweaked" and "it works, thats fine for me".
I hope you take this post seriously, it's not meant to berate or anything like it. I'm hoping that you will reconsider what is truly important to you.
To me, it is far more important to spend an hour with my six year old daughter than to spend an hour lambashing some multi-billion dollar company on an internet forum.
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Re: [OOL] OOL Boost performance decrease when connected to route
I have had OOL Boost for awhile now (at least 6 months). My OOL and Speakeasy speed tests read about 9 Mb/s DL and 4.5 Mb/s UL. When I went right from my router to a laptop (bypassing my Netgear WPN834), the speeds jumped to 18 DL and 4.5 UL.
Because of this jump I called OOL. They made me run a FTP test where I was seeing 1 Mb/s DL through my router and 2 Mb/s directly from my cable modem. They said to not even bother with the Speakeasy and OOL test.
The tech said I should be seeing 20-22 Mb/s on that FTP download and I am seeing 2 Mb/s. Nothing more we could do on the phone so they are sending a tech out tomorrow.
Not sure what this all means in retrospect and why the online speed tests show food results, but the FTP tests shows horrible results.
Not really looking for any advice unless someone has had a similar situation. The Netgear WPN834 is on the Boost approved list of routers. Perhaps it's my cable modem. |
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