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44 minutes of your time?

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Department of Homeland Security requires internal passport for all US Citizens
The paranoia-inducing 27B Stroke 6 blog reports that the Department of Homeland Security has issued its requirements for standardizing state identification cards.
States must start issuing the new internal passports by May 2008, or else their citizens will not be able to board planes or enter federal courthouses...
DHS estimates that it will take only 44 minutes for a current driver's license holder to get a certified copy of their birth certificate, travel to the DMV and get a new license when it expires. No current driver's license holder will be allowed to renew a license by mail. They estimate the costs to states and individuals over 10 years will be $23 billion.

Congress may move to negate this ruling by repealing the Act or reverting to an earlier process.

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driver licences are renewed every 7 years, if yours for ex get renewed on january 2008, are you going to have to get a new one in may 2008?
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i am not a lawyer but I do play one on tv

It's not clear on the renewals. It's suggested by DHS that when the renewal occurs, that it might be an appropriate time to get the new ID, not before.

It's just another mess propagated by the government.
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cum hoc ergo propter hoc

reply to coxta
Your papers, please!

What a load of crap. Where did they get the 44 min figure? It takes me a minimum of 30 mins just to drive to the nearest DMV. Also, what, exactly, is a 'certified' birth certificate and how does one procure such a thing?

Just gets better and better.
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reply to coxta
The continuing sacrifice of the illusion of security for Liberty.

Osama Ben Laden and his pitiful little band of rebels have completed their goals.

reply to coxta
44 minutes? - whomever dreamed that figure up hasn't been to a California DMV office.

If you don't have or can't find your "official" birth certificate you can count on the process of getting that alone to take about two weeks. (and that was before any increased traffic at the records office that this law will cause).

I suspect this is more likely aimed at the states that don't have a photo as part of the drivers license.

reply to coxta
I have a certified copy of my birth certificate. I obtained it so I could get my name off of a no-fly list. Someone with the same name but different birth date was holding me up at every airport I flew out of, and I fly pretty regularly. I talked with two TSA officials - nice and knowledgeable and very helpful who each identified the reason for my boarding difficulties. I spent around $75 getting all my documents and their forms in order and sending them off certified mail, etc.

I finally received a form letter telling me that the TSA had no idea of why I was sending them the information; that I was never on a no fly list, and they had no information to help me. Curiously enough though, I've never had any problem boarding after that.

Oh, time? Trying to get a birth certificate from out of state is one thing. It's another to get it certified by that state is a different issue. Everything had to be notarized. However, in California items cannot be notarized, but a letter listing the items can be. It took several hours over a month to handle this.
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cum hoc ergo propter hoc