44 minutes of your time? in Southern California http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r17929694 en Mon, 30 Nov 2009 10:01:18 EDT Mon, 30 Nov 2009 10:01:18 EDT Re: 44 minutes of your time? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17930746 coxta : I have a certified copy of my birth certificate. I obtained it so I could get my name off of a no-fly list. Someone with the same name but different birth date was holding me up at every airport I flew out of, and I fly pretty regularly. I talked with two TSA officials - nice and knowledgeable and very helpful who each identified the reason for my boarding difficulties. I spent around $75 getting all my documents and their forms in order and sending them off certified mail, etc.

I finally received a form letter telling me that the TSA had no idea of why I was sending them the information; that I was never on a no fly list, and they had no information to help me. Curiously enough though, I've never had any problem boarding after that.

Oh, time? Trying to get a birth certificate from out of state is one thing. It's another to get it certified by that state is a different issue. Everything had to be notarized. However, in California items cannot be notarized, but a letter listing the items can be. It took several hours over a month to handle this.
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cum hoc ergo propter hoc]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17930746 Fri, 02 Mar 2007 15:08:40 EDT Re: 44 minutes of your time? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17930604 seagreen : 44 minutes? - whomever dreamed that figure up hasn't been to a California DMV office.

If you don't have or can't find your "official" birth certificate you can count on the process of getting that alone to take about two weeks. (and that was before any increased traffic at the records office that this law will cause). :uhh:

I suspect this is more likely aimed at the states that don't have a photo as part of the drivers license.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17930604 Fri, 02 Mar 2007 14:48:29 EDT Re: 44 minutes of your time? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17930460 dogma : The continuing sacrifice of the illusion of security for Liberty.

Osama Ben Laden and his pitiful little band of rebels have completed their goals.

said by Rocky67 See Profile :

Your papers, please!
...Your Pay-pahs ... ah not in Ooh-da. Vee vill be sending you to be en-terror-gated by an SS Ooh-fe-cer of the Luftwaffle High Command at the DHS...please board the box-car now. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17930460 Fri, 02 Mar 2007 14:22:44 EDT Re: 44 minutes of your time? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17930341 Boricua65 :
said by americanada See Profile
I had to mail away for mine to Saskatchewan Canada and got a white piece of paper with an embossed stamp on it. That was "certified".
I wonder if Puerto Rico will allow me to do that. I already have the birth certificate but don't remember where I put it away. I currently hold a passport, so does anyone know if that'll be accepted.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17930341 Fri, 02 Mar 2007 13:57:13 EDT Re: 44 minutes of your time? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17930098 americanada :
said by Rocky67 See Profile :

Also, what, exactly, is a 'certified' birth certificate and how does one procure such a thing?

It's something from the county/state that says you were born here. For someone born in LA County, it is easily procured at the County Registrar in Norwalk.

I had to mail away for mine to Saskatchewan Canada and got a white piece of paper with an embossed stamp on it. That was "certified".]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17930098 Fri, 02 Mar 2007 13:15:44 EDT Re: 44 minutes of your time? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17929883 Rocky67 : Your papers, please!

What a load of crap. Where did they get the 44 min figure? It takes me a minimum of 30 mins just to drive to the nearest DMV. Also, what, exactly, is a 'certified' birth certificate and how does one procure such a thing?

Just gets better and better.
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"The Internet? Is that thing still around?" - Homer]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17929883 Fri, 02 Mar 2007 12:40:53 EDT Re: 44 minutes of your time? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17929767 coxta : It's not clear on the renewals. It's suggested by DHS that when the renewal occurs, that it might be an appropriate time to get the new ID, not before.

It's just another mess propagated by the government.
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cum hoc ergo propter hoc]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17929767 Fri, 02 Mar 2007 12:21:27 EDT Re: 44 minutes of your time? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17929718 81399672 : driver licences are renewed every 7 years, if yours for ex get renewed on january 2008, are you going to have to get a new one in may 2008?
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i am not a lawyer but I do play one on tv]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17929718 Fri, 02 Mar 2007 12:14:24 EDT 44 minutes of your time? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17929694 coxta : I guess the governor won't be instituting the drivers license for illegal immigrants?

See here.

quote:
Department of Homeland Security requires internal passport for all US Citizens
The paranoia-inducing 27B Stroke 6 blog reports that the Department of Homeland Security has issued its requirements for standardizing state identification cards.
States must start issuing the new internal passports by May 2008, or else their citizens will not be able to board planes or enter federal courthouses...
DHS estimates that it will take only 44 minutes for a current driver's license holder to get a certified copy of their birth certificate, travel to the DMV and get a new license when it expires. No current driver's license holder will be allowed to renew a license by mail. They estimate the costs to states and individuals over 10 years will be $23 billion.

Congress may move to negate this ruling by repealing the Act or reverting to an earlier process.


»www.latimes.com/news/nationworld···set=true

»www.dhs.gov/xprevprot/laws/gc_11···686.shtm
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cum hoc ergo propter hoc]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17929694 Fri, 02 Mar 2007 12:11:10 EDT