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ixNay
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reply to wiener_bur
Re: Just dunno what firewall to use...Which one you use?

Running Comodo here too, behind Linksys Router.


bellgamin
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reply to wiener_bur
I am behind a router plus I run SystemSafetyMonitor with Network Rules active. Therefore, I don't need any software firewall. However, I still run Kerio 2.1.5 because it is lighter than a flea's fart & -- just in case, wot?


wguimb

join:2001-04-29
Houston, TX
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reply to wiener_bur
Running Vista Ultimate retail and using the built-in firewall. All inbound and outbound traffic is blocked by default. I have specific rules defined to allow which programs, services or port/protocols can get through. Easy to configure once you become familiar with it. I see no indication of a CPU/RAM performance hit and no additional network traffic.

Yet, I can't wait to try out the new Zonealarm firewall for Vista once it comes out.


appleAday

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reply to wiener_bur
Isn't there a problem or some flaw that makes it unsafe running the Xp firewall for dialup users?


batterup
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reply to wiener_bur
ZoneAlarm security suit, I even pay money for it.


batterup
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said by appleAday :

Isn't there a problem or some flaw that makes it unsafe running the Xp firewall for dialup users?
The built in XP firewall is next to useless; it will let Bill phone home.


goodchefro

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said by batterup See Profile :

said by appleAday :

Isn't there a problem or some flaw that makes it unsafe running the Xp firewall for dialup users?
The built in XP firewall is next to useless; it will let Bill phone home.
So that suppose to mean...what (in terms of a decent answer)?
Care to explain why the firewall is "next" to useless?
tks.


batterup
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said by goodchefro See Profile :

said by batterup See Profile :

said by appleAday :

Isn't there a problem or some flaw that makes it unsafe running the Xp firewall for dialup users?
The built in XP firewall is next to useless; it will let Bill phone home.
So that suppose to mean...what (in terms of a decent answer)?
Care to explain why the firewall is "next" to useless?
tks.
It is a one way firewall, it can block incoming but not outgoing.


goodchefro

join:2007-02-21
Macomb, IL
So if it is blocking incoming (that's exactly its purpose), how would the purported "Bill" be able to get inside your "house" and "phone home"?


tmaertin
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reply to wiener_bur
another vote for comodo here - i switched and could not be happier.

use it behind a netgear router

digdugphil

join:2001-10-01
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said by goodchefro See Profile :

So if it is blocking incoming (that's exactly its purpose), how would the purported "Bill" be able to get inside your "house" and "phone home"?
I am guessing "Bill" wrote the OS and "phones home" anytime it is necessary.
I use ZA and keep AV software up to date. Seems to work fine. No problems yet...


batterup
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said by goodchefro See Profile :

So if it is blocking incoming (that's exactly its purpose), how would the purported "Bill" be able to get inside your "house" and "phone home"?
There is allot of software that one installs that does things one might not want it to do. Windows for one.


gugarci
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reply to wiener_bur
I use ZA Pro but I've been thinking of switching to Comodo when my subscription expires. I've had no problems with ZA Pro. But Comodo is supposed to be just as good and it's free.

Mele20
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reply to appleAday
said by appleAday :

Isn't there a problem or some flaw that makes it unsafe running the Xp firewall for dialup users?
I hope not as that is what I use when I have to go on dialup because Road Runner is down.

Most of the time I just use a router and ProcessGuard to stop stuff starting up without my permission like IE used to do sometimes until I tied it down. At the moment, I have had to bypass the router for about a week now due to connection problems and needing to rule out the router as the culprit. I use XP firewall when I have to do this.
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DaMan666
What happened?
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Minneapolis, MN
ZA pro, with a linksys router works for me. Can't afford a sisco router, but this works for me.


Psicop
More human than human
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reply to batterup
The reason why everyone bashed XP's firewall is simply due to the lack of outbound protection, but if you know what you're doing then this FW is enough. Clicking on everything and downloading anything is a good way to allow a trojan call home and start downloading malware. Hence outbound protection would be required.

In other words, a good router with FW and Windows XP FW is more than enough for the average user.

daveinpoway
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Poway, CA
reply to jsimmons3
Are you saying that the Zwall 2+ can be configured so as to block certain programs on your PC from talking to the "mother ship"? Blocking such communications is a strong reason for having a software firewall on your PC.

jsimmons3

join:2006-04-17
San Antonio, TX
You can block outbound traffic(by default, all outbound traffic is allowed), so if you know the port numbers, the answer is yes.

markopoleo

join:2003-04-02
Bonne Terre, MO
Hardware router/switch only I recommend. The next piece of security is the hardest to get, reason and common sense when using the internet. That fails lots of people for some reason.


webhead

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reply to wiener_bur
In the links posted by CalamityJane, Linklogger says the problems with the XP firewall for dial up users was fixed with an update from MS. So I'm assuming you shouldn't use the XP firewall to protect yourself after you first install Windows XP (e.g. after a reformat) because you won't have the fix till you get the updates and you can't get the updates till you've got the fix, kind of a catch 22. So before you reformat or reinstall Windows I would download another firewall and save it to a cd, thumbdrive, or whatever that you can install and use while you get your Windows updates. After your done you can uninstall that firewall and use the XP firewall again and you should be ok then.
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