jaa
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Re: What about that marketing scheme???
said by MadMANN  :said by pnh102 :According to the article, Verizon had their vans equipped with after-market hybrid technology. This process adds significantly more cost to the vehicles (assuming they were purchased new). It is unlikely they will recoup any savings from gasoline purchases using this approach. As a field tech, I put about $100-125 in my tank every week. In a year, that's $5200. In five years (the average life of a field vehicle, sometimes more), that would be $26,000. So you are telling me that a hybrid truck would cost close to $26,000 more than a normal truck? The savings are obvious. No, I am telling you that the 10 to 20% fuel savings ($5,000 over 5 years in your example) does not cover the cost of the conversion.
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| said by jaa :No, I am telling you that the 10 to 20% fuel savings ($5,000 over 5 years in your example) does not cover the cost of the conversion. My previous 2000 Camry was getting 20 MPG. My 2007 Camry Hybrid is getting an actual ~32 MPG. That was certainly more of a savings than 10%. |
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| You can't compare a car built in 2000 with one built in 2007. A 2007 Camry gets 24/34 vs 40/38 for the hybrid. Making it 11% savings on the highway and 40% in the city. Assuming you had an even mix of driving you get a 26% average savings.
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| said by cmaenginsb :You can't compare a car built in 2000 with one built in 2007. A 2007 Camry gets 24/34 vs 40/38 for the hybrid. Making it 11% savings on the highway and 40% in the city. Assuming you had an even mix of driving you get a 26% average savings. I can't? My 2000 Camry was rated 23/32, yet I still only saw ~20 MPG actual performance for this terrain. A 2007 Camry is only better on the specs by 1-2 MPG.
All I know is that my obtained MPG in the 2007 hybrid was effectively 160% that of my 2000 car which still retains specs similar to that in the base Camry model today. |
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said by cmaenginsb :You can't compare a car built in 2000 with one built in 2007. A 2007 Camry gets 24/34 vs 40/38 for the hybrid. Making it 11% savings on the highway and 40% in the city. Assuming you had an even mix of driving you get a 26% average savings. I don't know in what areas they are deploying the hybrids, but in metro areas like NYC, almost ALL of the driving these guys do is "city" driving which is where the hybrids (of any size) really shine. Verizon is a greedy company, they would not do this just to enhance their public image.
We also don't know if these hybrid systems they are using have a plug or not. If they do, then they are going to "fill up" overnight and save even more (an all electric car is far, far cheaper to "gas up" than a gasoline car). |
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