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BF69
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join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN

Well I guess

When he turns down this merger and one of them goes out of business and the remaining one has no competition and can raise prices at will, that'll be better for consumers.


n2jtx

join:2001-01-13
Glen Head, NY
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They both agreed at the time their licenses were issued that neither provider would try to acquire the other. That agreement is still in force unless they are now claiming it was just a joke.
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N3OGH
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reply to BF69

said by BF69:

When he turns down this merger and one of them goes out of business and the remaining one has no competition and can raise prices at will, that'll be better for consumers.
It's not like either service would just stop working one day.

It's like in any other business. Once they declare bankruptcy, and can get out from underneath all the bad choices that were made, someone will buy it.

Even if both of them went bankrupt, they would both exist.
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Nightfall
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reply to BF69

said by BF69:

When he turns down this merger and one of them goes out of business and the remaining one has no competition and can raise prices at will, that'll be better for consumers.
This is a damned if you do and a damned if you don't situation. What I don't believe is the FUD that this new company will raise prices or the one left will raise prices. Guess I haven't read the plan that most people here have read. Maybe you can provide a link to proof?
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morbo
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said by Nightfall:

What I don't believe is the FUD that this new company will raise prices or the one left will raise prices.
said by the man with no long term memory


nixen
Rockin' the Boxen
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Alexandria, VA

reply to n2jtx

said by n2jtx:

They both agreed at the time their licenses were issued that neither provider would try to acquire the other. That agreement is still in force unless they are now claiming it was just a joke.
Technically, neither is trying to acquire the other: it's a "merger of equals". Acquisition implies that one owns a controlling stake of the other. Merger of equals implies that neither owns a controlling stake of the other.

-tom
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P Ness
You'Ve Forgotten 9-11 Already
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way way out

reply to n2jtx

said by n2jtx:

They both agreed at the time their licenses were issued that neither provider would try to acquire the other. That agreement is still in force unless they are now claiming it was just a joke.
WRONG

the agreement is that they would both get a spectrum to utilize that would not overlap. they actually agreed that within 7 years radio's would be built that could accept both services.

it said that no one company can have both spectrums. so in theory they could give back one spectrum fold the company together under one and raise prices 10x with only the same number of channels today....
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Nightfall
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reply to morbo

said by morbo:

said by Nightfall:

What I don't believe is the FUD that this new company will raise prices or the one left will raise prices.
said by the man with no long term memory
I take it thats a no? Thought so.
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phattieg

join:2001-04-29
Winter Park, FL
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reply to BF69

said by BF69:

When he turns down this merger and one of them goes out of business and the remaining one has no competition and can raise prices at will, that'll be better for consumers.
I think the audio quality on either provider isn't worth monthly subscription fee's. Sounds too compressed. I'd rather have HD radio, which is free.
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Nightfall
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said by phattieg:

said by BF69:

When he turns down this merger and one of them goes out of business and the remaining one has no competition and can raise prices at will, that'll be better for consumers.
I think the audio quality on either provider isn't worth monthly subscription fee's. Sounds too compressed. I'd rather have HD radio, which is free.
You still have to pay for a HD Radio, so it isn't like that is free.
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BabyBear
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join:2007-01-11

Come on, you know he was referring to the service, not the equipment.


dentman42
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join:2001-10-02
Columbus, OH

reply to phattieg

said by phattieg:

I think the audio quality on either provider isn't worth monthly subscription fee's. Sounds too compressed. I'd rather have HD radio, which is free.
I was looking at some new (home) speakers a couple weeks ago. They couldn't get any FM reception in the store, so they hooked up an XM receiver. It sounded so bad that I made them get a CD to demo with - the XM made a 128k .mp3 sound good by comparison. I knew it was bad, but this was the first time I ever heard it on higher end equipment.

I've heard the same claims made about HD radio, but haven't actually tried an HD receiver.

rjbasye

join:2000-05-24
Dry Ridge, KY

reply to phattieg
For the price of an HD Radio you can get 2yr subscription to Satellite Radio. HD Radio is not a national service either with limited signal range.



jtudor
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Morganton, NC

reply to P Ness

said by P Ness:

together under one and raise prices 10x with only the same number of channels today....
So you are saying that a monthly subscription to the combined company would cost $129.50 a month for one radio and each additional radio under a family plan would cost $69.90 a month?

If you believe this you are out of your mind!!!!

Nobody is stupid enough to raise prices that much. Any idiot knows that they would lose all their customers and be out of business within 60 days, if not sooner if they tried something like that. I believe you need to seriously (Siriusly??) rethink your statement.
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P Ness
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said by jtudor:

said by P Ness:

together under one and raise prices 10x with only the same number of channels today....
So you are saying that a monthly subscription to the combined company would cost $129.50 a month for one radio and each additional radio under a family plan would cost $69.90 a month?

If you believe this you are out of your mind!!!!

Nobody is stupid enough to raise prices that much. Any idiot knows that they would lose all their customers and be out of business within 60 days, if not sooner if they tried something like that. I believe you need to seriously (Siriusly??) rethink your statement.
NO i said they "could" not that they "would"...
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www.stopfcc.comI do not think the government needs to restrict free speech especially on a device that has an off knob.


Nightfall
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reply to BabyBear

said by BabyBear:

Come on, you know he was referring to the service, not the equipment.
There are two costs you have to look at when choosing any service. The cost of the equipment and the service. When he says HD Radio is free, thats not accurate becuase you have to pay for the equipment. Its not like you can just flip a switch and listen to it without the hardware purchase.
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Nightfall
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reply to rjbasye

said by rjbasye:

For the price of an HD Radio you can get 2yr subscription to Satellite Radio. HD Radio is not a national service either with limited signal range.
Don't forget to add in the fact that you get to listen to those commercials in brilliant HD quality on HD Radio.
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