rob_in_chatt
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Chattanooga, TN | comcast
they loose either way. firing the employee over allegations from being investigated might be illegal in the state where this happened at. here in Tennessee, its employment at will, meaning you can be fired for anything at anytime without notice. |
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ronpin
Imagine Reality
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Look lady -- this is Comcast final offer! |
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biggbrother
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Providence, RI
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I highly doubt it's illegal. This is not a form of discrimination or other violation of basic tenents of the constitution of the Civil Rights Act. Comcast cannot fire someone because they are a Woman/Man, Race, Religion or Disabled, but they have the right to fire an employee they deem to be in violation of their own standards other than those listed above. Only a Union Contract could affect this, but it doesn't sound like there was a union.
Besides, this guy was a "contractor". he probably wan't even a regular employee and was paid as a contractor. Comcast could have just discontinued use of his services.
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moonpuppy
join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD
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said by rob_in_chatt  :they loose either way. firing the employee over allegations from being investigated might be illegal in the state where this happened at. here in Tennessee, its employment at will, meaning you can be fired for anything at anytime without notice. Police departments in Maryland put police officers on "administrative leave" whenever they discharge their weapons. They investigate and if all rules were followed, the guy goes back to duty. He is still paid since he is an "employee" of sorts.
Comcast should have suspended this guy especially for a something as serious as a murder investigation. |
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biggbrother
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Providence, RI
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Comcast should have suspended this guy especially for a something as serious as a murder investigation.
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He should have been fired. Police officers are a different breed. They have a strong union and many are protected under Police Officer Bill fo Rights laws in their state. They cannot be fired just for being charged.
Private citizens working for a private company who are not subject to a Labor agreement are fair game unless the reason is discrimanatory.
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nixen
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said by rob_in_chatt :they loose either way. firing the employee Please reread: he wasn't an employee, he was a contractor.
said by rob_in_chatt :over allegations from being investigated might be illegal in the state where this happened at. here in Tennessee, its employment at will, meaning you can be fired for anything at anytime without notice. Given that he was a contractor and not an employee, dismissal would be under contract terms. Further, unless he was an independent contractor contracted directly to Comcast, it would have been on Comcast's contractor to handle suspension or termination of the employee.
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phattieg
join:2001-04-29
Winter Park, FL
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said by biggbrother :I highly doubt it's illegal. This is not a form of discrimination or other violation of basic tenents of the constitution of the Civil Rights Act. Comcast cannot fire someone because they are a Woman/Man, Race, Religion or Disabled, but they have the right to fire an employee they deem to be in violation of their own standards other than those listed above. Only a Union Contract could affect this, but it doesn't sound like there was a union. Besides, this guy was a "contractor". he probably wan't even a regular employee and was paid as a contractor. Comcast could have just discontinued use of his services. First off, contractors don't just say "Hey, let me call Comcast and ask if they need an independant worker." They get hired by a Contractor company. The contractor company is responsible for drug testing, criminal background checks, etc. It is not up to Comcast to check these things, because it's in the agreement made with the contractor company stating the company will perform these duties for new employees. Second of all, it IS against the law to fire someone just for being a suspect. The company's only option would be to suspend the employee with pay, as it's unlawful to treat the person as guilty, unless proven in the court of law. I will say it's very unfortunate for this family's loss, and it does bother me that it happened. My heart goes out to the family who had to experience this unfortunate occurance. 
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joako
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said by rob_in_chatt :they loose either way. firing the employee over allegations from being investigated might be illegal in the state where this happened at. here in Tennessee, its employment at will, meaning you can be fired for anything at anytime without notice. Did you read the article? The first victim was found dead in his house three days after the same contracter performed a house call! Its not a random murder the contractor was being investigated for.
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zeebo
@dslextreme.com | reply to rob_in_chatt
Just wait, a press release from Comcast will emerge and your next bill will include a rate hike under the guise of "Keeping Our Customers Safer" |
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ender7074
join:2006-11-21
Saint Louis, MO | reply to ronpin
OMG I almost spit my soda on the screen. Thats funny stuff!  |
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rolande
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That sleeping Comcast subcontractor is looking pretty good right about now. Wouldn't you say so?
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RadioDoc
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"The company's only option would be to suspend the employee with pay"
Which is what any responsible company would do if a customer-facing employee--especially one who enters private homes unsupervised under the badge of the company--was a suspect in a murder investigation.
Someone dropped a large ball here, and Comcast bears some blame along with the contractor. The case cited here is the second murder.
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raddicott
join:2002-12-29 | reply to rob_in_chatt
Now that's Comcastic! |
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jsinaiko
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Chicago, IL
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Right you are Doc.
Both Comcast and Primer (or is it Prime?) were told by the CPD that the guy was a suspect.
The other thing is that the Illinois State Police Lab screwed up big-time too. It took weeks and weeks to get the DNA results from what is a capital case - it should have taken a few days.
I know a lot of women in my neighborhood who were scared #$%!less for weeks before the guy was busted for the other murder, out by Midway Airport. If the state lab and/or Comcrap/primer had practiced anything close to due diligence one woman might still be alive and the guy would have been busted much earlier for the Hyde Park murder. We have enough crime in this part of the city without the cable guy acting like a creep in a bad hacker (pun intended) flick!
These cable outfits are the worst.
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fiberguy
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Yea... funny.. hah hah... someone loosing their life is something to joke about.
I know this is a story where people are going to LOVE to eat up the opportunity to bash Comcast, well, because comcast is the cause of all evil in the world.
But in the end, someone lost their life. There are sick people in the world and that's a fact of life. We don't always know who they are.. when they will loose it and hurt someone, and it's not always easy to stop people from being freaks. But it happens.
I just don't know what's worse.. the guy that killed someone, or the people that make jokes about it.
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weedahoe
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Duluth, GA | im certain he was laughing at the picture ronpin posted. At least i HOPE it wasnt laughter about the nature of this topic. |
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weedahoe
join:2003-09-14
Duluth, GA | reply to nixen
right you are but even 'contracted' means 'employed' and from that we derive the commonly used term as 'employee'. Specifics do not need to be clarified as they are blindly understood. |
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phattieg
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Winter Park, FL
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said by jsinaiko :Right you are Doc. Both Comcast and Primer (or is it Prime?) were told by the CPD that the guy was a suspect. The other thing is that the Illinois State Police Lab screwed up big-time too. It took weeks and weeks to get the DNA results from what is a capital case - it should have taken a few days. I know a lot of women in my neighborhood who were scared #$%!less for weeks before the guy was busted for the other murder, out by Midway Airport. If the state lab and/or Comcrap/primer had practiced anything close to due diligence one woman might still be alive and the guy would have been busted much earlier for the Hyde Park murder. We have enough crime in this part of the city without the cable guy acting like a creep in a bad hacker (pun intended) flick! These cable outfits are the worst. Well, how about you and Mr. Radio Doc take em to court and sue to find out. Comcast isn't going to have to answer to anything this guy did. He simply is NOT A COMCAST EMPLOYEE. Show me something that says otherwise, and I'll agree with you, but until then, the courts will answer this argument.
And as far as the cable outfits being the worse, this kind of crap could happen with anyone. Look at the Postal service, which is government ran, and think of how many postal workers have gone nuts and went on killing sprees. I won't waste text pointing out other companys employees who didn't deserve their jobs. If you want to blame someone, blame the crime lab for not proving the guy guilty BEFORE this happened, or at least detained him. If you're suspected for murder, they have the right to hold you. You can't deny the fact the guy should have been jailed before this all happened. Their was not enough evidence to support either the police taking the guy, nor the employer "legally" being able to force him out of work.
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jsinaiko
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| Well, there are so many murderers and jerks in Flori-duh maybe you guys are just used to it.
You stay in your little country and we'll live in the rest of the world.
Your attitude is inappropriate.
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