openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
 ·AT&T Southeast
3 edits | reply to Keithb
Re: Email Server
If people have their own domains and are looking for domain and/or e-mail hosting, PM me. I've got access to a good server hosted at ThePlanet (see uptime reports, downtimes were scheduled maintenance for server relocation). Currently, I've got more resources than I know what to do with (needed server for a different project of mine). As long as the requirements don't kill me or the server, I'm not currently looking to charge anything. This offer is aimed at your WISPers only. |
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Keithb
join:2003-09-16
US
| reply to mschwerin
Keep in mind that if you go to some hosts, and use their hosting for a lot of email, it may be against their TOS. I've seen one do this for months off a reseller account only to have the host change their TOS because of it. I'm unsure why it would matter, it's unfair and it does happen so just beware. |
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mschwerin
join:2004-06-21
Columbiaville, MI
| reply to gunther_01
Currently I have been using Netfirms.com for my web site, that doesn't exist, lol. BUt with the business plan you get unlimited email addresses with @yourdomain.com plus webspace available, all for 9.95 per month paid annually. That is what I plan on using to begin with.
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gunther_01
Premium
join:2004-03-29
Saybrook, IL
| reply to korym
Yea, but did you see the cost of the premier edition... Oh no, not for me. And I liked the premier features.
Maybe the Yahoo route. I use bluehost.com for my hosting and my email. They do a real good job, but I like the thought of some of the other features that have been brought up to me by these other providers. |
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PersComp
Premium
join:2005-08-17
Cayce, SC
| reply to cowsgonemadd
said by cowsgonemadd  :Not sure if yahoo has enabled that feature on there free version or not. No, but when you subscribe to their webhosting it becomes a business account. And you can set it up with Outlook.
said by cowsgonemadd :I guess you would not make any money doing it this way but it would be super simple. Every website you refer or setup is $60 in your pocket and who says you can't still charge a couple $ per email....or give them 7 for another $5 per month. Same as the big boys do it....
Charge them $45 standard or $40 if no emails....give them a feeling of value if they don't need the email
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MZR
join:2006-08-12
TX
| reply to charlesa920
said by charlesa920 :What about godaddy.com where you can get 100 addresses for $30 a year. can use POP3 or web based. to sign into web based it is... email.secureserver.net or can be found with email.yourdomain.com or dot whatever extension you use. seems like this would be a good option. we could still charge for the email, offer our brand, and not have any of the server maintenance requirements. We just built a website for my wife's business and decided to go with godaddy's economy hosting package which includes up to 500 email accounts @ yourdomain.com. |
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korym
Go Wisp's
ExMod 1999-03
join:1999-12-23
Richmond, VA
clubs: | reply to openbox9
Might be an idea to bring your own domain to Gmail:
»www.google.com/a/help/intl/en/us···ail.html |
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charlesa920
Premium
join:2007-01-20
Sikeston, MO | reply to cowsgonemadd
You get 2000 MB to share between the 100 boxes. Seems like it should be a sweet deal. |
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cowsgonemadd
join:2007-02-24
Ware Shoals, SC
1 edit | reply to mschwerin
I thought about go daddy too.I used it as a web host when I had my website and they had good uptime on the hosting.
Only problem is they dont offer near the amount of space as gmail. I guess thats just for the storing of online data not the amount you can download. |
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charlesa920
Premium
join:2007-01-20
Sikeston, MO
| reply to openbox9
What about godaddy.com where you can get 100 addresses for $30 a year. can use POP3 or web based.
to sign into web based it is... email.secureserver.net or can be found with email.yourdomain.com or dot whatever extension you use.
seems like this would be a good option. we could still charge for the email, offer our brand, and not have any of the server maintenance requirements. |
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openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
·AT&T Southeast
| reply to cowsgonemadd
Additional revenue stream. Branding e-mail accounts with your own domain instead of user@gmail.com. More control. Satisfaction of saying, "hey, look what I did". Yahoo and gmail are so large that getting a "john.smith" type address is next to impossible. And I'm sure there are a lot of other reasons as to why people stand up their own mail servers, or contract with 3rd-party providers, but this should give you a good idea. |
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cowsgonemadd
join:2007-02-24
Ware Shoals, SC
| reply to mschwerin
I am curious.
When providing email why not send them to yahoo or gmail?
Gmail has pop abilities so you can use it with a email program such as outlook. Not sure if yahoo has enabled that feature on there free version or not.
Plus they can check the mail on any computer anywhere.
They also would not have to worry about viruses unless they downloaded attachments but I think both yahoo and google have built in virus scanning.
I guess you would not make any money doing it this way but it would be super simple. All problems are between them and google. |
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PersComp
Premium
join:2005-08-17
Cayce, SC
| reply to peavys
Here are the specs on a couple of their basic plans. I spoke with a yahoo rep a couple years ago when I started my webhosting, and additional addresses could be bought in blocks of 100. I don't remember the price, but it was very reasonable....like $2-$3 per 100. And everything is completely scalable. You can jump from one plan to another with a few mouse clicks.
»smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosti···pare.php
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peavys
join:2004-03-15
Manor, TX
| reply to PersComp
OK, now you have me curious. 200 email accounts for $12/mo? I looked at their site and did not see that. I have about 2,000 email accounts, so even at that great price it would cost about $120/mo. but I can't find that offer from Yahoo. It might just be worth letting them do it for that price, assuming it was a stable price, and not something that would go up and throw my whole system into chaos someday. |
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korym
Go Wisp's
ExMod 1999-03
join:1999-12-23
Richmond, VA
clubs:
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said by wishcom :co-ndc-2 {102} uptime 3:47PM up 82 days, 21 mins, 11 users, load averages: 3.50, 3.32, 3.05 Not to go off-topic but that's quite a load. Wow.
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mschwerin
join:2004-06-21
Columbiaville, MI
| reply to PersComp
That is exactly my point, even 30 hrs at my salary my current emplyer pays which is low, is $750 and that doesn't include any hardware, as opposed to the $144 for yahoo or some other company to provide domain name registration, web hosting, email hosting etc, PLUS being able to resell larger amounts of web space for a monthly fee, with no service costs or hardware costs. THis is the way I am leaning, and of course maybe down the road IF I grow large enough then I would consider in house.
Mike |
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PersComp
Premium
join:2005-08-17
Cayce, SC
| reply to mschwerin
One thing I meant to add in my post above is that I have exactly $0 outlay for equipment when using yahoo. Couple that with no need for spare parts, redundant servers, or any time on my part (other than setting up individual email accounts), and $144 per year is the deal of the century. I understand having it in house and the pride with DIY (tried all that myself with Linksys APs and cheap amps before I discovered this forum)  . But, since I have no prior mail server setup experience, this was a no-brainer from a business standpoint. 
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peavys
join:2004-03-15
Manor, TX | reply to Keithb
I use Abyss mail server, a windows product. I spend about 30 hours/year maintaining it, in spite of the fact I am not deeply into email issues. Considering how much $ it saves me, those are 30 very highly paid hours! |
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Keithb
join:2003-09-16
US
| reply to wishcom
There are several freeware mailservers for Windows that work fairly well. I tested a few of these a while back, to consider handling our own mailserver, but that would put more work on me. Thus, the reason I host ours on my servers since I have tech's to manage also.
Just don't forget that if you run your own mailserver, you'll have to manage it also.
Linux is the preferred choice for me for any web-application, but we have a domain controller that acts as our PDC, local mailserver, local Intranet, file server, and a few other things that will run for 100's of days running Server 2003. As mentioned, only reason for reboot is upgrades.
The Windows method would probably be the simplest method as most people know Windows and it's easier to manage from a tech standpoint without Linux knowledge. |
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wishcom
Premium
join:2006-06-15
Spring Grove, IL
| reply to battleop
Our mailservers are all OpenBSD based and run qmail.
Why? Because that way I can guarantee their security, and maintain them ourselves - like the other gentleman said, I dont trust anyone else to do it right.
co-ndc-2 {102} uptime
3:47PM up 82 days, 21 mins, 11 users, load averages: 3.50, 3.32, 3.05
(typical uptime > 200 days, this one happened to have an upgrade 82 days ago) |
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