lhamp
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| Vista Bitches and complaints.
We've all been hearing about bitches and complaints about Vista. Lets go "Back to the Future".
Win 3.1, Win 95, Win 98, Win 98SE, ME, and XP.
With every release there's been bitches and complaints. Drivers don't work, software doesn't work. YADA YADA.
With a few exceptions (ME LOL) everyone finally went with the flow. Drivers were released, software was released. Did
I ever have a problem with any new MS release. Of course I did. Was I able to solve the problems? Of course I did.
Why? Because I paid ATTENTION to the possibilities.
It always amazes me with each new release the amount of users who SWEAR to GOD they'll switch to a MAC or LINUX. Only because of their lack of PAYING ATTENTION.
This may belong in the Vent forum, but I don't think so.
I've been using Vista since RC1 and of course I had problems. I'm now using Vista Ultimate and do I still have problems? Of course I do. But nothing that can't be resolved by "PAYING ATTENTION".
Did I have problems with 95, 98, XP? DOH! Do I need to go on? |
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Skipdawg
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| Yea it is human nature to do that. I've said it a few times but so far I've stayed with Microsoft Windows now for oh nearing 13 years. LOL  
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howie
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Little Falls, NJ
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You make some great points and all the "Vista Sucks" threads pretty much mirror those concerning XP 5 1/2 years ago. As recently as 2004, there were those who claimed SP2 was the devil... Now you hardly ever hear it mentioned when probably 90+% of XP users have it installed.
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La Luna
Surviving Ashraful
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You are spot on with your assessment. |
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gzt7d8
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Ditto, and it has been 18 years for me!!
Greg
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Carbon Unit
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Saint Charles, MO
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I actually didnt have much problems with XP until service pack 2 came out, but I will have too admit, I think I have had more Blue screens with Vista since the release than all the Blues screens I had with win 9x and XP put together, my guess is MS spent too much time and money on the security and eye candy features and didnt do much with compatibility and stability... but its been about a month since the release...it might take 6 months before most of the hardware and software bugs are cleared up
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steve1a
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Thanks especially to this Forum specifically that I really pay ATTENTION to...
I have only had what I would call annoyances with VISTA ...
I installed on a "Vista Capable" system that I also reconfirmed what to expect with the VISTA Advisor...
Took heed of the advice of a few software compatabilty problems BEFORE the install... checked for the available VISTA driver releases... and over compensated with extra RAM= 4g and an updated Graphics Card...
Testing with a 5.3 score
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mbi777
join:2002-05-24
Orlando, FL | reply to lhamp
That answers that. I am waiting six more months for Vista to get where it needs to be.
Thanks |
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denb45
join:2001-02-04
Albuquerque, NM
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said by Carbon Unit  :I actually didnt have much problems with XP until service pack 2 came out, but I will have too admit, I think I have had more Blue screens with Vista since the release than all the Blues screens I had with win 9x and XP put together, my guess is MS spent too much time and money on the security and eye candy features and didnt do much with compatibility and stability... but its been about a month since the release...it might take 6 months before most of the hardware and software bugs are cleared up I never had any problems w/ XP PRO ,back in AUG 01 when I got a hold of the 1st RTM, even w/ SP1 & SP2,I had some Minor Hardwear issues w/ RAM, in Vista, but nothing I couldn't figuer out on my own.....
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Carbon Unit
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said by mbi777 :That answers that. I am waiting six more months for Vista to get where it needs to be. Thanks Your welcome
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Nocturnal Desert Intruder
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join:2005-08-19
Toronto, Can
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said by lhamp :We've all been hearing about bitches and complaints about Vista. Lets go "Back to the Future". Win 3.1, Win 95, Win 98, Win 98SE, ME, and XP. With every release there's been bitches and complaints. Drivers don't work, software doesn't work. YADA YADA. With a few exceptions (ME LOL) everyone finally went with the flow. Drivers were released, software was released. Did I ever have a problem with any new MS release. Of course I did. Was I able to solve the problems? Of course I did. Why? Because I paid ATTENTION to the possibilities. It always amazes me with each new release the amount of users who SWEAR to GOD they'll switch to a MAC or LINUX. Only because of their lack of PAYING ATTENTION. This may belong in the Vent forum, but I don't think so. I've been using Vista since RC1 and of course I had problems. I'm now using Vista Ultimate and do I still have problems? Of course I do. But nothing that can't be resolved by "PAYING ATTENTION". Did I have problems with 95, 98, XP? DOH! Do I need to go on? .
This is why I wait 1 year before installing any upgrade of Windows so people like you can endure and fix the bugs that comes with them before I take the plunge. 
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haertig
join:2000-12-31
Broomfield, CO
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I use whatever OS comes on the computer when I buy it, unless I have a special purpose for the computer (it would typically get Linux in that scenerio). If the computer lives long enough that I feel I need a new OS before purchasing a replacement computer, then I put Linux on it. I just have an aversion to paying hundreds of dollars for a new OS. I've just never seen the need. I feel much more comfortable with Linux, and find it much easier to maintain than Windows, but I'm probably in the minority there. I split my time between Windows and Linux on my work computers.
They certainly seem to want a lot of money for Vista. I'd never pick up a box from a store shelf with that kind of price tag on it. I'll probably give it a shot if my next computer has no other choice in the the installed OS. I feel lucky to have snuck in and bought a new laptop with XP on it, right under the wire before they started selling them only with Vista. I don't currently plan to upgrade it, even though it came with a free Vista upgrade. Maybe the next computer... |
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Vorticon
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Fruitland Park, FL
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I did a search in this forum from 1-1-2000 to 12-31-2001 just to see how well Windows XP was received.
»/nsearch?q=XP&···der&14=1
Ya know what? You could substitute "Vista" for "XP" and get the same whining and crying from many posters about why they will either switch to some form of Linux, buy a Mac, or stay with their current OS.
Here's just two examples out of hundreds of threads.
»New Version of Windows Introduced
»xp?? windows??
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itsjussme
join:2005-09-10
Laurens, SC
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I never had any problems with any of MS OS's. Then again I have always built my own computers and did my own software installs. Never bought those shelf computers with cheap parts and junk software. And I have always stayed cleared of these "utility" programs that claim to make Windows run better. My experience, from working on others' computers, has taught me that these programs actually cause problems. |
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I'm still using Windows 2000 Professional and don't foresee any changes for the foreseeable future.
Have XP that came with my laptop and hate the frequent nag screens (too many icons on desktop, do you wish to clean, etc) type garbage. W2K doesn't do anything I don't tell it to. The newer one has a mind of its own and frequently disrupts my work with it's requests for this or that. No thanks.
Vista on the Intel Core DUO at Costco, ran so slow that I was convinced there were no benefits there. My SPARCStation 2, running Sun OS 4.11 still serves me well, going on 18 years now. UNIX= work os. Vista = eye candy for consumers. |
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dvd536
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said by howie :You make some great points and all the "Vista Sucks" threads pretty much mirror those concerning XP 5 1/2 years ago. As recently as 2004, there were those who claimed SP2 was the devil... Now you hardly ever hear it mentioned when probably 90+% of XP users have it installed. Well XP no matter how good/bad it was, its DRM wasn't as anal as vista's. disabling interfaces, downgrading protected content quality...
you wont catch me downgrading TO vista anytime soon.
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nemo1966
join:2005-11-15
England
1 edit | reply to howie
said by howie :You make some great points and all the "Vista Sucks" threads pretty much mirror those concerning XP 5 1/2 years ago. As recently as 2004, there were those who claimed SP2 was the devil... Now you hardly ever hear it mentioned when probably 90+% of XP users have it installed. I cant remember people complaining about DRM or WGA when XP was launched, people are NOW complaining about WGA in XP by the way.
So I say you are wrong, a lot of the bitching about Vista isn't drivers etc...... it's the way MS are forcing DRM and WGA down peoples throats.
So I guess you guys missed the point completely 
PS and no wonder there are so many threads complaining about Vista... take this thread... theres been a multitude of threads in DSLReports saying exactly the same thing... yet the author found it necessary to start another one! Perhaps using the search button would have been a better option.
This threasd should be closed, its covering information already discussed here many times.
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cracker 52
join:2007-01-23
Atlanta, GA
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Excellent posts Vorticon and Howie, as the point of the original post is that when previous Windows operating programs were introduced, there's a parade of the usual complaints and gripes that we are seeing again for Vista. There is certainly an irony about a lot of people who complained about the previous operating programs in the past now praising them as pointed out in the threads by Vorticon.
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jubangy
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Erie, PA
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I agree with you. I never really had any trouble with any of the os' that usually wasn't something I did but I do not think it is all that fair the MS charges what they do for these new versions, and then in 1 or 2 years turn around and shove another one down your throat. yea sure you do not HAVE to upgrade, but if you want continued support then guess what you will eventually have to upgrade. If that is the way it has to be then why don't MS either charge less or put right on the box in letterign that stands out like their dam name that says this product is broken when you buy it and we will attempt to fix through updates, but only for a certain amount of time then you will have to shell out a hundred or two more dollars to have us continue to fix something we sold you broke. I do not think it is really that fair that people who only use the computer for email, web browsing and such have to buy a whole new dam computer just because Microsoft gives up trying to get one os right just so they can pawn off more shit that ain't right. And you can say oh pay attention all day long but the truth is alot of windows users are in it for the pont and click ease so they expect it to work right out of the box. After all that is basically how most software is advertised, as being easy to use for beginners. If anyone of us tried to sell a product that was a botched up as Windows where we would have to constantly offer patches and security updates because the product wasn't working as expected or was breaking other products that used it, we would be in court slap dab in the middle of a dam law suit. Bottom line if your going to sell a product, and for that kind of money and throw this wga shit out there then in my opinion I think it should be dam close to perfect the day it is sold not in the coming weeks afterwards. It amazes me that Microsoft is working so hard on the drm crap but they can't even protect their own shit as reliably but they want to make sure you do not pirate a song or a movie. I think they should spend alittle more time worrying about people hacking their dam windows to hell frst and foremost. let the music and moie companies worry about their own shit. |
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join:2005-12-20
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MS claims Vista as we have it now was the next logical step for XP-and I disagree. I saw demonstrations of Longhorn in its early release-THAT was the next logical step, and would have been a welcome change. They missed a huge chance to get it right with Vista IMO. I have not vowed to switch to another primary OS, but I will be holding on to XP Pro with a tight grip for a long time to come. 
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