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ftthz
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moving forward is always a good sign

The more FTTH the better


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I met with one of them

...and they seemed to be involved in a pissing contest -- no Kum-ba-ya solidarity there. Dr. Phil needs to help Palo Alto -- or it'll be another 10 years.

EDIT: I sure hope 180Connect gets a detailed agreement with Palo Alto. Control freaks might be an understatement -- from what I saw. P.A. will likely expect to maintain complete control of prices, rollouts and features -- of a privately financed company! No way in hell I'd do business with P.A. without some very tight contracts.
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After reading the news item, this doesn't look real promising or like it will move forward quickly. The only viable bidder is in poor financial shape; has 2 lawsuits against it; and the city dept that would have to manage the process thinks it is a waste of time. Fiber in Palo Alto sometime after 2010 ???
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The thrill is gone

FTTH/FTTP seemed urgent in the days of 1-3mbs broadband. Our imaginations were much bigger than the "pipe".

Verizon's FiOS rollout has erased the sexy-ness of FTTP. FiOS as currently implemented is really just a "better" cable network -- with vast untapped potential. Only when popular new features and services are introduced will FTTP become urgent once again.

Palo Alto should notice how few vendors want to do business with them -- and why?
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said by ronpin See Profile :

FTTH/FTTP seemed urgent in the days of 1-3mbs broadband. Our imaginations were much bigger than the "pipe".

Verizon's FiOS rollout has erased the sexy-ness of FTTP. FiOS as currently implemented is really just a "better" cable network -- with vast untapped potential. Only when popular new features and services are introduced will FTTP become urgent once again.

Palo Alto should notice how few vendors want to do business with them -- and why?
FIOS *could* be nice if they weren't sooooooo stingy with the upload oh yeah, and dump that PPPoE crap.
PPP was ok for telephone modems but c'mon that was 20 years ago!
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Re: I met with one of them

Interestingly enough, Dynamic City, the company behind the UTOPIA project in Utah, made an offer to build the network on the city's dime so they could retain bother ownership and control. They refused it because they didn't want to front the money.

So... basically, they want to have a network they control without spending any money. I'm surprised any company would accept that offer. As much as I like muni fiber, I'm wondering what Palo Alto thinks they're doing.
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