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Re: Black Viper is back! Yes,
It's Monday blues, I need sympathy, here's my s'gar.. 
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Name Game
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Do you want catchup with those phrizes and over easy?
»egg.d21c.com/egg.swf
Argle is still tweaking his fast user switching.
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said by EGeezer  :It's Monday blues, I need sympathy, here's my s'gar.. How'd you get that doobie to look so store bought? That would fool every peace officer. Man, with the size of that thing, you don't need sympathy; you need company.
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EGeezer
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| We'uns only smoke the good stuff, La Gloria Cubana and Arturo Fuente. They go great with a nice smoky Islay Single Malt. You can have the seeds and stems..
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said by wapu :The "Big Deal" about that site is that the information was easy to follow and all in one place. I could go there when looking for info on machines on my domain and machines in a workgroup. It was the best source for information. As for going to micrsofts site, that is like telling someone to look something up on the internet without a search engine. Doable, but a big PITA. I learnt how to reformat my computer and to make email rules for outlook express through BVs site and will be forever gratefull  |
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Blue2
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| Besides, with MS, you always need a "Microsoftese" dictionary handy and still end up scratching your head.
"Please wait while the list is being populated". My first reaction when I saw this years ago was "populated by whom"?
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radical1
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Macon, GA | I am glad to see he is back.Viper was a big help in me learning what services to shut down in xp.
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AB
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said by Blue2 :Besides, with MS, you always need a "Microsoftese" dictionary handy and still end up scratching your head. "Please wait while the list is being populated". My first reaction when I saw this years ago was "populated by whom"? . . . Amen to that.
I despise using Microsoft's sites to find tech information. They never met a sentence they couldn't turn into a mish-mash of jargon. I think they must threaten to fire anyone who makes any information straightforward and simple to comprehend.
said by radical1 :. . You guys should donate some funds to the guy for all his hard work too. Oh, good! Just what the Internet needs-- someone else telling us all what we should do.  |
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EGeezer
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Tweaks, upgrades and performance analysis
There has been some good discussions, and some broad generalizations made in this topic.
As for BV's site and value, I have found it useful to determine what services perform what functions and what can be tweaked to tune for security or performance. I applaud him and others who provide such information.
I wish system performance were as simple as some portray. My experience in the commercial grade OS world has been that not only does one have to consider swapping and paging settings, the system loads need to be analysed and need to include CPU, memory, I/O, communications, application design, database design, permissions and file structure.
The amount of workload on the various components also affects the effectiveness of performance tuning. For example, one can add memory to a poorly performing system, but if the application is I/O intensive and the database is not properly indexed, the system will gain little if any throughput.
As a component like disk, CPU or Communications pipe becomes busier, a queuing effect starts to impact response time. For example, a Comm line utilization above 40% busy will start to show deteriorating throughput. CPU at 70% and disk I/O throughput starts to queue at 40%. When queuing becomes significant, another element of response time becomes evident; wait time, where components and programs wait for queued requests to be fulfilled. At that point, tweaks or upgrades that would provide little or no benefit begin to make a bigger difference.
This isn't a complete explanation, as volumes have been written on system performance.All I've done is scratch the surface.
BV's (or anyone else's) tweaks may - or may not - provide significant throughput improvements. For systems with low relative utilization of its components, the tuning may have minimal effect. Systems with bottlenecks will generally see improvements when the bottlenecked components are upgraded.
Anyone attempting to fine-tune for performance needs to analyse the performance of all components, including applications and data objects, and look at more than a cookbook set of recommendations. System performance tuning is as much an art as a science, but is still based on an orderly process.
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AB
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| said by EGeezer :. . Anyone attempting to fine-tune for performance needs to analyse the performance of all components, including applications and data objects, and look at more than a cookbook set of recommendations. . . . I dunno . . . sounds like a lot of time & effort to me.
I'm gonna just disable all caching, set the swapfile to 'zero', crank my CPU up a couple of notches, and have done with it.
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| That's the simple way - throw hardware at it, which will generally improve most non-application and non-database issues. But you gotta note that there are people here who've noted (or claimed to) the sub-millisecond difference between seek times to different locations on a disk..
Also, I'm looking at it from the perspective of a real operating system where one can actually see such detail and model changes to system parameters and the resulting throughput changes.
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Re: Black Viper is back! Yes,
When all said and done...
If you choose the right hardware it still might not increase your download speed. But in many cases when the chunk size is adjusted just right it will get everyone's attention without standing in the queue.
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AB
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Re: Tweaks, upgrades and performance analysis
said by EGeezer :That's the simple way - throw hardware at it, which will generally improve most non-application and non-database issues. But you gotta note that there are people here who've noted (or claimed to) the sub-millisecond difference between seek times to different locations on a disk.. When I seek at 8ms intead of 9ms, it just "feels" faster.
Also, I'm looking at it from the perspective of a real operating system where one can actually see such detail and model changes to system parameters and the resulting throughput changes. Now you're just trying to confuse the issue with facts. |
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NICK ADSL UK
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Re: Black Viper is back! Yes,
Black Viper's Service Configurations Updated!
»www.blackviper.com/WinXP/servicecfg.htm |
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Mele20
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Hilo, HI | They were updated several days ago. I used them for SP2. As of then, he had not told us why he disappeared. Has he done that now? |
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hpguru
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Personally I have always felt that in the hands of most users, BV's advise is very bad advise. I also wonder what percentage of those who have followed BV's bad advise closely are also among those who are always ragging in forums about how much "MS Windows Sucks". After all one cannot expect a crippled OS to perform any differently than a crippled OS.
said by SpannerITWks :Many of the tweaks he mentions actually help to secure your PC a lot better, by shutting down services etc that are not required, so can't be used by Malware. So don't install malware.
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said by hpguru : BV's advise is very bad advise. I also wonder what percentage of those who have followed BV's bad advise closely are also among those who are always ragging in forums about how much "MS Windows Sucks hpguru, forgive me, but advise is a verb, not a noun. The word you should be using is advice.
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SpannerITWks
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hpguru
I explicity said " shutting down services etc that are NOT required "
People can always quickly return the BV config to as was and compare before and after.
I know you didn't say i said " MS Windows Sucks " and i don't think it's totally true. MS itself has done some dastardly deeds over the years though !
I don't install malware that often lol.
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You are correct sir, and more like a fever i'd say !
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