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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1030061"><b>JimmySask</b></A> : I agree with Maxo entirely. That is why there is still high speed light tiers, with 128 or 256 kbps download speed. Many customers simply are not willing to pay $45 for a 5 mbps connection, when all they do is check e-mail. <br><br>Because of our more technical inclinations, I think our perception is a little skewed towards wanting better/faster around here, and we lose sight of the fact that we are often more the exception than the rule when it comes to technology buying habits. ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/546359"><b>tango65536</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  GlennAllen <A HREF="/useremail/u/722417"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</SMALL><BR><BR>"...Comcast is the largest ISP for broadband..."<br><br>Yeah, for now, thanks to time and takeovers. Let's see where they are a few years from now in those ever-growing FiOS areas.<br><br>In my area: Comcast HSI (6000/384) for about $70 (no fees), Verizon DSL (3000/768) for $32.50 (including fees), and FiOS (30/5 for me) for $55 (no fees). My "preference ranking": FiOS first, DSL second, Comcast third (even with PowerBoost).<br><br>To each his/her own.<br><br>(typo)<br> </DIV>I wish I had those options! I'm stuck with Comcast or slow DSL service!]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/399707"><b>lev</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  imrf <A HREF="/useremail/u/641190"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</SMALL><BR><BR><div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  RadioDoc <A HREF="/useremail/u/157889"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>  :</SMALL><BR><BR> How about a cable company or related business?</DIV>Like I have told you in the past when you tried this pathetic crap. Nope. No cable, no telco, no cell company.<br><br><div class="bquote">What city did you use?  La Grange?  That's not where I live. </DIV>Then fine, since you hide the city you live in, ok. Unless you give us your city, I'll still call BS on your posts about it.<br></DIV>I'm going to step into this in an attempt to put at least this part of the fight to rest.<br><br>I know  RadioDoc <A HREF="/useremail/u/157889"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>'s home address.  I plugged it in to Comcast's site 5 minutes ago, and got the following response:<br><br><div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by Comcast's webpage :</SMALL><BR><BR>High-Speed Internet service is temporarily not yet available for sale on our Web site at the address/ZIP code you entered. Please call 1-888-COMCAST to order service. </DIV>The rest of this is still between the two of you to sort out.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/157889"><b>RadioDoc</b></A> : When <B>I</B> try "this pathetic crap"?  You're the one who dragged out the shit with <I>"since you're an SBC employee, that isn't a big shocker"</I>.  Then you do it again:  <I>"Don't hurt yourself trying to think"</I> and then again: <I>"Sounds like someone isn't trying too hard"</I> and then again: <I>"since you are a flat out liar and know nothing about"</I> and yet again: <I>"You hide like a child, then skirt the facts when they are presented to you."</I> and <I>" It's all very childish, considering this is all from an ex-mod"</I> which plays the "ex mod" card as the last gasp of a vacant argument.<br><br>I live in Western Springs, which is not hidden anywhere and most who frequent the forums I do know that; there is no place to have two zip codes in a profile here.  My office is in La Grange.<br><br>I just tried to change services on Thursday, and had a nice chat with a Comcast CSR.  My information comes directly from that conversation, while yours is typical Internet bullshit.<br><br>Sorry to ruin your rant.<br><SMALL>--<br>Toolmaster of La Grange.</SMALL>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/641190"><b>imrf</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  RadioDoc <A HREF="/useremail/u/157889"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</SMALL><BR><BR> How about a cable company or related business?</DIV>Like I have told you in the past when you tried this pathetic crap. Nope. No cable, no telco, no cell company.<br><br><div class="bquote">What city did you use?  La Grange?  That's not where I live. </DIV>Then fine, since you hide the city you live in, ok. Unless you give us your city, I'll still call BS on your posts about it.<br><br><div class="bquote"> Did you actually take the order completely through to completion?  No?  Then how the hell can you possibly know anything about it?</DIV>Because you can't get tha far in an area that doesn't have those services that were selected. I would have been told long before scheduling a date and time to call Comcast.<br><br><div class="bquote">Nice to see you still resort to namecalling when you can't back up your posts. </DIV>I've backed up my posts, it's you who hasn't. You hide like a child, then skirt the facts when they are presented to you. It's all very childish, considering this is all from an ex-mod.  :uhh:]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/157889"><b>RadioDoc</b></A> : You really can't be that dense.  :uhh:  Who said anything about an ISP?  How about a cable company or related business?<br><br>Considering that you don't live here, how can you have any experience ordering here?  What city did you use?  La Grange?  That's not where I live.  Did you actually take the order completely through to completion?  No?  Then how the hell can you possibly know anything about it?<br><br>Nice to see you still resort to namecalling when you can't back up your posts.<br><SMALL>--<br>Toolmaster of La Grange.</SMALL>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/641190"><b>imrf</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  RadioDoc <A HREF="/useremail/u/157889"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</SMALL><BR><BR>  How about <B>you</B>?</DIV>Nope, not an employee of any ISP.<br><br><div class="bquote">Have you ever tried to order Comcast services <B>here</B>?  Hmmm?  Thought not. </DIV>Don't hurt yourself trying to think. And yes, I have ordered service from Comcast. It isn't hard at all.<br><br><div class="bquote">Funny how every fucking time I try to order online I get "please call" and when I do, I get "sorry, we don't have that available in your area".</DIV>Funny, I just went to Comcast's site and was able to use an address in your city and got al the way to the end.  :uhh:  Sounds like someone isn't trying too hard.<br><br><div class="bquote">So please put away your cable shill flipcards and shut up about what you know nothing about. </DIV>I suggest you put away your telco shill flipcards and do the same, since you are a flat out liar and know nothing about.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/157889"><b>RadioDoc</b></A> : Typical non-responsive lies from you.  First off, I am not an SBC employee.  In fact I don't work for any telephone or cable company.  How about <B>you</B>?<br><br>Have you ever tried to order Comcast services <B>here</B>?  Hmmm?  Thought not.  I've been a customer for over twenty years, since this system was built in the early 80's.  First Centel, then Jones Intercable, then AT&T Broadband, then TCI and now Comcast.  Funny how every fucking time I try to order online I get "please call" and when I do, I get "sorry, we don't have that available in your area".<br><br>So please put away your cable shill flipcards and shut up about what you know nothing about.<br><SMALL>--<br>Toolmaster of La Grange.</SMALL>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/641190"><b>imrf</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  RadioDoc <A HREF="/useremail/u/157889"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</SMALL><BR><BR>Feel free to spout whatever you want, but that's what's going on <B>here</B>. </DIV>You seem to spout random lies about Comcast, since you're an SBC employee, that isn't a big shocker, but then you try to belittle people when they prove you wrong. Point and case here. Your area <B>does</B> have those speeds, you just choose not to say that they do. I have friends in your area, and they <B>do</B> have 8Mbps speeds(something SBC doesn't even come close to), and the speeds are very consistent. So feel free to spout out whatever you want, but you <B>are</B> wrong. They also have a dual tuner HD DVR, and receive HD channels. So I don't know what your problem is.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/157889"><b>RadioDoc</b></A> : Feel free to spout whatever you want, but that's what's going on <B>here</B>.  I have "digital silver" which certainly qualifies for the higher speeds.  They just can't seem to deliver that, DVR, or any HD in this system.<br><SMALL>--<br>Toolmaster of La Grange.</SMALL>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1221019"><b>RideRed</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  impulse101 <A HREF="/useremail/u/1435081"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</SMALL><br><br><div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  Maxo <A HREF="/useremail/u/715380"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>  :</SMALL><br><br><div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  phattieg <A HREF="/useremail/u/379790"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</SMALL><br><br>but we're talking about what the provider is willing to push to the public for their $$$.</DIV>Which is where, in many areas, Comcast loses at.  Most people would rather buy a lower DSL tier and pay lower prices than pay $50/month for a premium connection.<br><br>Edit: Spelling<br> </DIV>wrong. I rather pay $50 for 8Mb/1Mb than pay $30 for 1.5Mb/368 any day. This is especially true for people who download a lot and also gaming. I can get a 2.5GB file in about 40 minutes. Where with DSL you are looking at 3 1/2 hours. No thanks.<br> </DIV>You are in the minority...according to recent sales trends.<br><SMALL>--<br>There's only 10 types of people in this world. Those who understand binary, and those who don't. &#63743;</SMALL>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1221019"><b>RideRed</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  imrf <A HREF="/useremail/u/641190"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</SMALL><br><br><div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  Farley3 <A HREF="/useremail/u/568673"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>  :</SMALL><br><br> I called in to see why my internet bill keeps rising, </DIV>Comcast hasn't changed the price of their internet service in over 5 years. You either came off a promo or are flat out lying to just post something here.<br> </DIV>That's not true.  In 2005 they revamped their pricing adding additional bunding penalties to those like me who didn't have CATV.  Those who had expanded basic or higher didn't see the price increases.  Those like me who didn't saw the increases and were passed over for some of the speed increases (I was stuck at 4Mb while the standard plan was 6Mb).  <br><br>Here each tier had 3 price levels, those with expanded basic or higher, those with broadcast basic and those with only HSI.  <br><br>At least that is what happened in my SoCal franchise.<br><SMALL>--<br>There's only 10 types of people in this world. Those who understand binary, and those who don't. &#63743;</SMALL>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1221019"><b>RideRed</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  phattieg <A HREF="/useremail/u/379790"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</SMALL><br><br><div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  Maxo <A HREF="/useremail/u/715380"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</SMALL><br><br><div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  phattieg <A HREF="/useremail/u/379790"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</SMALL><br><br>but we're talking about what the provider is willing to push to the public for their $$$.</DIV>Which is where, in many areas, Comcast loses at.  Most people would rather buy a lower DSL tier and pay lower prices than pay $50/month for a premium connection.<br><br>Edit: Spelling<br> </DIV>Really?  Funny, because Comcast is the largest ISP for broadband service.  The only larger provider is AOL's dialup.  Thats strange you say they want slower DSL...   ;)<br> </DIV>DSL has been outselling cable in new adds by quite a large margin because of price.  Just because Comcast is good at buying up other cable operators doesn't mean they're 'working' at getting new adds.  They're just buying them.<br><SMALL>--<br>There's only 10 types of people in this world. Those who understand binary, and those who don't. &#63743;</SMALL>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/715380"><b>Maxo</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  impulse101 <A HREF="/useremail/u/1435081"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</SMALL><br><br>wrong. I rather pay $50 for 8Mb/1Mb than pay $30 for 1.5Mb/368 any day. This is especially true for people who download a lot and also gaming. I can get a 2.5GB file in about 40 minutes. Where with DSL you are looking at 3 1/2 hours. No thanks.</DIV>But your browsing habits are not reflective of the general population.  Most people do not download 2.5GB files.  Most people browse, send e-mail, and maybe watch videos on youtube and cnn.com from time to time.  A 1.5M line is good for this.  A 3.0M line gives you more than you need for such activities.  So, most people would rather buy the cheaper 3.0M line then the faster and a little more expensive Cable line.<br>This is evident in the growing number of people choosing DSL.<br>One of Cables sticking points with many still remains the insistence of telcos to have a live phone line.<br><SMALL>--<br>"Padre, nobody said war was fun now bowl!" - Sherman T Potter<BR><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.cafepress.com/maxolasersquad" >www.cafepress.com/maxolasersquad</A><BR><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://maxolasersquad.com/" >maxolasersquad.com/</A><BR><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://maxolasersquad.com/network/" >maxolasersquad.com/network/</A> My DSL Network Guide<BR><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://myspace.com/mlsquad" >myspace.com/mlsquad</A></SMALL>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1435081"><b>impulse101</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  Maxo <A HREF="/useremail/u/715380"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</SMALL><BR><BR><div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  phattieg <A HREF="/useremail/u/379790"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</SMALL><br><br>but we're talking about what the provider is willing to push to the public for their $$$.</DIV>Which is where, in many areas, Comcast loses at.  Most people would rather buy a lower DSL tier and pay lower prices than pay $50/month for a premium connection.<br><br>Edit: Spelling<br> </DIV>wrong. I rather pay $50 for 8Mb/1Mb than pay $30 for 1.5Mb/368 any day. This is especially true for people who download a lot and also gaming. I can get a 2.5GB file in about 40 minutes. Where with DSL you are looking at 3 1/2 hours. No thanks.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/157889"><b>RadioDoc</b></A> : If there is a point in there, it's lost in the contract-like formatting.<br><br>Comcast <B>still</B> can't beat my DSL in this system.  <B>Four megabits</B> is it for Comcast here, and that barely works.  I'm sitting with two 6016/768 DSL connections which routinely test at 5100/650.  I suspect you are utterly clueless about anything outside your immediate area or are spouting info you heard somewhere or didn't understand.<br><SMALL>--<br>Toolmaster of La Grange.</SMALL>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/568673"><b>Farley3</b></A> : My zipcode is 48060, i moved almost 2 years ago to port huron and didnt update my address on this website smartass..<br><br>Croswell is a small town of 1500 people where i used to live and oddly enough in this 1 stoplight town dsl was avl.<br><br>Maybe there wasnt enough populus in croswell for comcast to care.<br><br>Do you want me to get you a pair of Kneepads so your not so sore after playing comcast's skin flute on these fourms?<br>My complaint is a valid one<br><br><SMALL>--<br>The exsistance of Flame throws says that at sometime, somewhere, someone said, ya know.. i really want to light that guy over there on fire but i just cant reach that far...<br></SMALL>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/379790"><b>phattieg</b></A> : Doc, seriously, lets recap, Comcast owns 27% of the cable tv industry in the US, and yes thats a large percentage, but my reply was basically to point out that the general group of folks that want DSL lite, have it.  Most of my callers have routers, and multiple computers, or they like to game.  They need speed, not slow.  The people who don't want speed flat out say "no, I'll go to DSL", and I don't hate them for that, we're about speed.  I have <B>never</B> had a person complain to me that DSL is not available, and thats why they have us.  I do, however, often get people complaining that their DSL sucks, and it's suppose to be 6 meg, but it's only 4 meg at it's max.  Keep in mind I also did DSL support too.  Between the two, DSL sucks.  All of the callers for DSL were hateful, and it reminded me of that Comcast commercial where everyone in the office with DSL started fighting and crap.  The provisioning, trouble tickets for speed and line issues, and over all requirements of the service, including PPPoE, sucked too, and many people hated having to use it.  I know a router would be an easy solution, but most people that only want "slow" dsl don't even know what a router is.  My own dad has DSL Lite.  It's slow as hell, and even he says "I only have it because it's cheap, I hate it though".  He had Comcast, and since he doesn't use the computer much, he uses it for e-mailing pictures now and then, and my stepmom orders from catalogs.  Since they are not computer savvy, they don't need it, I can't blame them.  But at the same time, I don't think Comcast should offer lesser packages.  Considering the speed keeps increasing and the price stays the same, I wouldn't like to risk them raising the price to cover the cost of people decreasing service to a lesser package.  Besides, it's stupid to go "backwards".<br><SMALL>--<br>SIPPhone/Gizmo # 17476200648 / PIMPNET Chatline / Ran by Asterisk & Slackware 10.1.</SMALL>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/937622"><b>dispatcher21</b></A> : Dude, search the news archives. There is story after story about how cable is bleeding customers away to DSL.  Every quarter, new DSL subscriber numbers beats new cable subscribers while cable looses customers every quarter.    ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/379790"><b>phattieg</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  Farley3 <A HREF="/useremail/u/568673"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</SMALL><br><br>Rentention here we come, thanks<br>I hope they dont call my bluff or else ill be screwed<br> </DIV>Funny, I looked up the zipcode for your location listed in your profile, 48422, looked up the area, tried a few VALID addresses, and kept being told it's not available in your area.  Hmmm..   :huh:<br><SMALL>--<br>SIPPhone/Gizmo # 17476200648 / PIMPNET Chatline / Ran by Asterisk & Slackware 10.1.</SMALL>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/379790"><b>phattieg</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  Farley3 <A HREF="/useremail/u/568673"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</SMALL><br><br>Trust me i wish i was lying...<br>If your so big on comcast imrf maybe you can give me some hints on what i can do to get a better price than almost 60 bucks a month just for the internet portion.  The next best alternative she could give me was dropping my High Definition TV to Standard to save on the bill. <br><br>gee thanks<br>very helpfull...<br> </DIV>First of all, Comcast High Speed Internet is $42.95 + $3.00 if you choose to rent the modem, but ONLY IF you have cable TV.  They offer a "speed tier" for $10 more a month.  On the $42.95 price, 5 years ago it was 1.5 meg down, 128 kbps up, no "speed tier" option, 4 years ago, it was 4 meg down, 256 kbps up, no "speed tier" option, 3 years ago it was 6 megs down, 384 kbps up, no "speed tier" option, then 2 years ago, it was the same, with "speed tier" option of 8 meg down, 768 kbps up.  Now it's advertised as 6 meg down, but with powerboost, I average 9 meg down, and 384 kbps up, for standard speed, "speed tier" is advertised as 8 meg down, but I know with powerboost it averages 12 to 16 meg down, and 768 kbps up.  Comcast is the first ISP to offer powerboost technology, to give customers better value IMO.  I honestly think fiber is a great thing, but I also think that current prices to service, maintain, repair, install, and deploy fiber is too expensive to deploy everywhere.  For years, cable has been way ahead of the game with speed on the internet, and television service that is ACTUALLY BROADCASTED by the owner, not 3rd party, like dish.  Until fiber cost comes down, it's worth it more to simply invest in more ways to milk your equipment.  With switched digital video coming, and DOCSIS 3.0, it won't be hard for cable to compete without having to deploy fiber.  You all keep forgetting that the only reason fiber is being laid by the telco is because they can't expand copper enough to handle the practical applications for today.  Cable still can, and they will, and when they day comes to goto fiber, they can do that too, and they can do it with ease, as they already have fiber to the neighborhood near you.  Multiplexing that fiber and splicing it into a fiber node instead of a HFC would allow the same service.  It's just not "necessary", because the internet, as it stands in America, just can't handle EVERYBODY that has broadband, to be able to cruse the web at anywhere near the 50 meg tier Verizon offers.  Sure you will find some here and there, but consistently, for now, not everyone can hang.  Imaging your connection if everyone had it...  Anyway, argue all you want, I agree with Mr. Roberts, only on the premise that cable has been able to accomplish amazing feats in the past, so as current trend will show, they feel confident they can do it again, so I believe them.<br><SMALL>--<br>SIPPhone/Gizmo # 17476200648 / PIMPNET Chatline / Ran by Asterisk & Slackware 10.1.</SMALL>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/568673"><b>Farley3</b></A> : Rentention here we come, thanks<br>I hope they dont call my bluff or else ill be screwed]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/641190"><b>imrf</b></A> : Either try again, or get on over to the cancellation people (retention) and tell them your issue. I'm sure they can "find" a way to get you a lower price. See if they can get you on the $33 per service package, where you could get internet(6Mbps) for $33 a month and tv service for $33 a month. They also have another promo right now with digital plus and HBO for $39.99 a month for 12 months.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/568673"><b>Farley3</b></A> : Man i swear to god they told me i couldnt Drop down, I went to the website and seen the 6 meger and called for it and they straight our denied me.  This was twice now, once by me and once by my angry girlfriend who pays the cable lol.<br><SMALL>--<br>The exsistance of Flame throws says that at sometime, somewhere, someone said, ya know.. i really want to light that guy over there on fire but i just cant reach that far...<br></SMALL>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/641190"><b>imrf</b></A> : Comcast has two tiers, a 6Mbps/384Kbps tier for $42.95 and a 8Mbps/758Kbps tier for $52.95, both without the $3 modem rental charge and both require tv service. That is the pricing tiers for the same state you live in, they do not vary from area to area.<br><br>If you don't want to pay almost $60 a month, then drop down the the 6Mbps tier.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/568673"><b>Farley3</b></A> : Trust me i wish i was lying...<br>If your so big on comcast imrf maybe you can give me some hints on what i can do to get a better price than almost 60 bucks a month just for the internet portion.  The next best alternative she could give me was dropping my High Definition TV to Standard to save on the bill. <br><br>gee thanks<br>very helpfull...<br>And if it Helps, We use the internet Casual, I need my on Demand, High Definition, and the Networks in HD, i could care less about the Premiums<br><br><SMALL>--<br>The exsistance of Flame throws says that at sometime, somewhere, someone said, ya know.. i really want to light that guy over there on fire but i just cant reach that far...<br></SMALL>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/641190"><b>imrf</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  Farley3 <A HREF="/useremail/u/568673"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</SMALL><BR><BR> I called in to see why my internet bill keeps rising, </DIV>Comcast hasn't changed the price of their internet service in over 5 years. You either came off a promo or are flat out lying to just post something here.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/157889"><b>RadioDoc</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  phattieg <A HREF="/useremail/u/379790"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</SMALL><br><br>Funny, because Comcast is the largest ISP for broadband service.  The only larger provider is AOL's dialup. </DIV>Hey, you should go to work for the PR department.  You can sling irrelevant numbers with the best of them.<br><br>Comcast is the "largest ISP for broadband service" because they have the largest footprint.  That has nothing to do with providing a quality product, competitive pricing or customers' warm fuzzy feelings when they get their bills every month.<br><br>For better or worse, once ATT finishes devouring BellSouth, it will be the "largest ISP for broadband service", which I also expect you to praise as being the best because it's the biggest.<br><SMALL>--<br>Toolmaster of La Grange.</SMALL>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/568673"><b>Farley3</b></A> : Yeah im sure Comcast does think its really funny, Im stuck with comcast and cant get DSL, I called in to see why my internet bill keeps rising, im told only the highest speed tier is avl to me.   Everything in life is getting cheaper it seems, except comcast cable and television services.<br><br>Nice...<br><br>Id have them come shut it off, but i fear i might be murdered, my house might be destroyed in an explosion or they might fall asleep on my new Chase loungers i just got.<br><SMALL>--<br>The exsistance of Flame throws says that at sometime, somewhere, someone said, ya know.. i really want to light that guy over there on fire but i just cant reach that far...<br></SMALL>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/722417"><b>GlennAllen</b></A> : "...Comcast is the largest ISP for broadband..."<br><br>Yeah, for now, thanks to time and takeovers. Let's see where they are a few years from now in those ever-growing FiOS areas.<br><br>In my area: Comcast HSI (6000/384) for about $70 (no fees), Verizon DSL (3000/768) for $32.50 (including fees), and FiOS (30/5 for me) for $55 (no fees). My "preference ranking": FiOS first, DSL second, Comcast third (even with PowerBoost).<br><br>To each his/her own.<br><br>(typo)]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/715380"><b>Maxo</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  phattieg <A HREF="/useremail/u/379790"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</SMALL><br><br><div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  Maxo <A HREF="/useremail/u/715380"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</SMALL><br><br><div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  phattieg <A HREF="/useremail/u/379790"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</SMALL><br><br>but we're talking about what the provider is willing to push to the public for their $$$.</DIV>Which is where, in many areas, Comcast loses at.  Most people would rather buy a lower DSL tier and pay lower prices than pay $50/month for a premium connection.<br><br>Edit: Spelling<br> </DIV>Really?  Funny, because Comcast is the largest ISP for broadband service.  The only larger provider is AOL's dialup.  Thats strange you say they want slower DSL...   ;)<br> </DIV>There is no defined winner.  As has been reported DSL has been gaining ground and the lower price point seems to be the reason.<br>What would be interesting is, given people who have the option between the two, how many people grab which service.<br>Losing out may not be the best word choice, maybe starting to lose ground.<br><SMALL>--<br>"Padre, nobody said war was fun now bowl!" - Sherman T Potter<BR><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.cafepress.com/maxolasersquad" >www.cafepress.com/maxolasersquad</A><BR><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://maxolasersquad.com/" >maxolasersquad.com/</A><BR><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://maxolasersquad.com/network/" >maxolasersquad.com/network/</A> My DSL Network Guide<BR><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://myspace.com/mlsquad" >myspace.com/mlsquad</A></SMALL>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/379790"><b>phattieg</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  Maxo <A HREF="/useremail/u/715380"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</SMALL><br><br><div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  phattieg <A HREF="/useremail/u/379790"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</SMALL><br><br>but we're talking about what the provider is willing to push to the public for their $$$.</DIV>Which is where, in many areas, Comcast loses at.  Most people would rather buy a lower DSL tier and pay lower prices than pay $50/month for a premium connection.<br><br>Edit: Spelling<br> </DIV>Really?  Funny, because Comcast is the largest ISP for broadband service.  The only larger provider is AOL's dialup.  Thats strange you say they want slower DSL...   ;)<br><SMALL>--<br>SIPPhone/Gizmo # 17476200648 / PIMPNET Chatline / Ran by Asterisk & Slackware 10.1.</SMALL>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1008293"><b>thender2</b></A> : That isn't the focus of the article, DSL is. There's a time and a place to make fun of Roberts for different deficiencies in his company and his personality.  :mad:]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1373892"><b>iLive4Apple</b></A> : "Roberts frequently laughs off FiOS competition as well"]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1008293"><b>thender2</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  iLive4Apple <A HREF="/useremail/u/1373892"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</SMALL><br><br>Yea he is full of BS. Fios could beat Comcast anyday.<br> </DIV>No, he said DSL is worse than cable - not FIOS. You brought FIOS into the situation because you are illiterate. Try again.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/157889"><b>RadioDoc</b></A> : So sayeth the Comcast employee.<br><br>No sane CEO is going to get up in front of any group of financial analysts (or any news media) and say "Gee, I think we have a crappy product.  We torture our customers with laughable customer service and we cancel the accounts of the people who are most likely to pay the most for the product.  Then, we blame outages on the competition and seed internet forums with employees who attack anyone who dares to point these things out."<br><br>No, a CEO is going to paint everything as sunshine and roses, and mock the competition.  It helps cut down on that pesky critical thinking by the media.<br><SMALL>--<br>Toolmaster of La Grange.</SMALL>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/715380"><b>Maxo</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  phattieg <A HREF="/useremail/u/379790"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</SMALL><br><br>but we're talking about what the provider is willing to push to the public for their $$$.</DIV>Which is where, in many areas, Comcast loses at.  Most people would rather buy a lower DSL tier and pay lower prices than pay $50/month for a premium connection.<br><br>Edit: Spelling]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/379790"><b>phattieg</b></A> : I have yet to see a single Cable MSO say "FiOS will end us."  Until then, I'm thinking Mr. Brian Roberts knows what he's talking about.  Sure, FiOS technology is faster now, but we're talking about what the provider is willing to push to the public for their $$$..  At the moment, FiOS offers a 5/30 pkg that isn't even available in all markets.  Why?  Because they don't want to push it unless they have to, nor do they want to over invest into the product up-front so they investors don't freak out...<br><SMALL>--<br>SIPPhone/Gizmo # 17476200648 / PIMPNET Chatline / Ran by Asterisk & Slackware 10.1.</SMALL>]]></description>
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