Topic 'My surge suppressor and Leviton Structured wiring.....' in forum 'Home Improvement'

Topic 'My surge suppressor and Leviton Structured wiring.....' in forum 'Home Improvement' - dslreports.com http://www.dslreports.com/forum/My-surge-suppressor-and-Leviton-Structured-wiring-17978227 en Fri, 10 Feb 2012 00:59:53 EDT Fri, 10 Feb 2012 00:59:53 EDT Re: My surge suppressor and Leviton Structured wiring..... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-My-surge-suppressor-and-Leviton-Structured-wiring-18127686 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-My-surge-suppressor-and-Leviton-Structured-wiring-18127686 Fri, 06 Apr 2007 15:03:38 EDT Re: My surge suppressor and Leviton Structured wiring..... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-My-surge-suppressor-and-Leviton-Structured-wiring-18087770 said by asjamias:

would a tripp lite ethernet surge work? »www.tripplite.com/products/produ···ctID=151 looks like it can easily fit in there...
With a 7 volt breakdown IMO that is the correct way to go just be sure it is grounded well. We (BST) have been using the ONEAC model which internally is the same basic design and they have greatly reduced signal level (3-5 volts Ethernet DS1) damage at cell sites which are lightning magnets. Needless to say after seening that I added (out of my pocket not BST's parts) the same protection at home to my Ethernet over fiber broadband connections.

Wayne
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Wayne
would a tripp lite ethernet surge work? »www.tripplite.com/products/produ···ctID=151 looks like it can easily fit in there...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-My-surge-suppressor-and-Leviton-Structured-wiring-18085280 Thu, 29 Mar 2007 19:13:04 EDT Re: My surge suppressor and Leviton Structured wiring..... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-My-surge-suppressor-and-Leviton-Structured-wiring-18084712 said by asjamias:

The power receptacles which both modem and switch plug into have surge suppressors built in surge suppressor > Yup and the protectors that are on your DSL line don't even kick in until the voltage hits there 350-400 volts T/R T/G R/G. So as I posted you should add an Ethernet supressor between the modem and your switch. Trust me it's money well spent.

Wayne
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first hit in google »www.sealevel.com/product_detail.···pressor_]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-My-surge-suppressor-and-Leviton-Structured-wiring-18084280 Thu, 29 Mar 2007 15:57:50 EDT Re: My surge suppressor and Leviton Structured wiring..... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-My-surge-suppressor-and-Leviton-Structured-wiring-18083969 said by Splitpair:

I would recommend you do add a Ethernet surge suppressor between the DSL modem/router and your switch/hub .

Wayne
The power receptacles which both modem and switch plug into have surge suppressors built in surge suppressor > »www.levitonproducts.com/catalog/···pid=1208

said by Ken:

I really like the idea of the structured wiring panel, and I would like to do that at my house. I just have one question, is there anyway to add UPS backup into the panel?

another member here has this »The Network Enclosure

he's got an APC UPS hooked up to his panel....

what I was planning, was to put UPS' on each computer instead as the cost to that big one is almost equal to 3 to 4 smaller units. what matters most to me is the data inside my laptops and desktops. those hardware if they fry [knock on wood] should be covered with homeowners insurance.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-My-surge-suppressor-and-Leviton-Structured-wiring-18083969 Thu, 29 Mar 2007 14:55:34 EDT Re: My surge suppressor and Leviton Structured wiring..... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-My-surge-suppressor-and-Leviton-Structured-wiring-18083604 said by Splitpair:

FWIW the loss in that flat cord is little to nothing compared to what exists in the loop due to length splices and guage changes.

Wayne

that's a fact! not to mention thru birds nests, over squirrel bite marks and beehives..]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-My-surge-suppressor-and-Leviton-Structured-wiring-18083604 Thu, 29 Mar 2007 13:53:18 EDT Re: My surge suppressor and Leviton Structured wiring..... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-My-surge-suppressor-and-Leviton-Structured-wiring-18083553
We have somewhat frequent power outages that tend to last for 2-5 seconds on average. Just enough to cause my dsl modem to reboot, and then I have to wait for a minute or more to get back online. I currently have my modem and router on a UPS, and I would hate to go back to no UPS. I wouldn't need very much battery capacity, as those two things don't draw much power.
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JoelC707 is right about the dsl cable. You are using a silver-satin type cable, which is the wrong type, and way too long. That is incorrect as we supply a standard flat type line cord with all of our ADSL modems the only CAT cables we supply are for the Ethernet connection.

FWIW the loss in that flat cord is little to nothing compared to what exists in the loop due to length splices and guage changes.

Wayne

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I would recommend you do add a Ethernet surge suppressor between the DSL modem/router and your switch/hub .

Wayne
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JoelC707 is right about the dsl cable. You are using a silver-satin type cable, which is the wrong type, and way too long. If you don't want to the use cable that you got with the modem, get yourself a twisted pair (CAT3 minimum) cable at Home Depot, or where ever you bought the structured cabling gear.

As far as the grounding goes, the entire panel needs to be grounded. This will be accomplished, if your 120V receptacles in the bottom of the panel are in metalic boxes (which are grounded properly). If not, Leviton puts a green grounding screw at the bottom of the panel. A wire should be run from this screw back to the ground bus in your main circuit breaker panel. (We realize you have a grounding block at the cable TV entrance to the house, but this is also necessary.)

Other than these two minor items, it looks fantastic. Good job!
thanks for the tips....i'll probably do that over the weekend. i'll need to check if the receptacles at the bottom are grounded or not so i can make revisions where need be.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-My-surge-suppressor-and-Leviton-Structured-wiring-18082676 Thu, 29 Mar 2007 10:48:30 EDT Re: My surge suppressor and Leviton Structured wiring..... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-My-surge-suppressor-and-Leviton-Structured-wiring-18080364 said by asjamias:

the dsl modem is using the puny little gray cable on the right where one end is RJ11 going to modem and the other end is RJ45 which I crimped to go into the leviton module, the cable itself is a regular telephone cable which i salvaged from a bunch of wires lying around. the original red cable was set aside just in case i need to return everything to bellsouth when i terminate my service.JoelC707 is right about the dsl cable. You are using a silver-satin type cable, which is the wrong type, and way too long. If you don't want to the use cable that you got with the modem, get yourself a twisted pair (CAT3 minimum) cable at Home Depot, or where ever you bought the structured cabling gear.

As far as the grounding goes, the entire panel needs to be grounded. This will be accomplished, if your 120V receptacles in the bottom of the panel are in metalic boxes (which are grounded properly). If not, Leviton puts a green grounding screw at the bottom of the panel. A wire should be run from this screw back to the ground bus in your main circuit breaker panel. (We realize you have a grounding block at the cable TV entrance to the house, but this is also necessary.)

Other than these two minor items, it looks fantastic. Good job!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-My-surge-suppressor-and-Leviton-Structured-wiring-18080364 Wed, 28 Mar 2007 21:46:53 EDT Re: My surge suppressor and Leviton Structured wiring..... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-My-surge-suppressor-and-Leviton-Structured-wiring-18077706 said by JoelC707:

Also, those jacks are 8P8C jacks and need an RJ-45 type connector not an RJ-11 connector. True if there are only 2-3 lines in the jack you could get away with an RJ-11 connector but you risk damaging the pins if it is an 8P8C jack (as opposed to an 8P6C or 8P4C).
the dsl modem is using the puny little gray cable on the right where one end is RJ11 going to modem and the other end is RJ45 which I crimped to go into the leviton module, the cable itself is a regular telephone cable which i salvaged from a bunch of wires lying around. the original red cable was set aside just in case i need to return everything to bellsouth when i terminate my service.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-My-surge-suppressor-and-Leviton-Structured-wiring-18077706 Wed, 28 Mar 2007 13:27:32 EDT Re: My surge suppressor and Leviton Structured wiring..... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-My-surge-suppressor-and-Leviton-Structured-wiring-18077610
Also, those jacks are 8P8C jacks and need an RJ-45 type connector not an RJ-11 connector. True if there are only 2-3 lines in the jack you could get away with an RJ-11 connector but you risk damaging the pins if it is an 8P8C jack (as opposed to an 8P6C or 8P4C).]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-My-surge-suppressor-and-Leviton-Structured-wiring-18077610 Wed, 28 Mar 2007 13:09:11 EDT Re: My surge suppressor and Leviton Structured wiring..... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-My-surge-suppressor-and-Leviton-Structured-wiring-18077083 said by Warzau:

Ohh where did you get the mount for the D-Link...
its from Leviton also...»www.smarthome.com/8651758.Html

said by Dogwood:

You have this wonderful, pretty set up, with CAT5 wire coming in and feeding the punch down block, even a separate CAT5 for the DSL line from the NID, but you use a crappy EMI prone flat phone cord to feed your DSL modem, and too much of it.Make an RJ11 cable with some leftover CAT5.
Also, ground that coax grounding block.

Looks great otherwise.

what do you mean by EMI prone? I was practicing my crimping techniques since its been awhile that I've done it and did not want to waste any cable. will make a better one when I get the chance. and the coax is grounded from the side wall of my house...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-My-surge-suppressor-and-Leviton-Structured-wiring-18077083 Wed, 28 Mar 2007 11:28:05 EDT Re: My surge suppressor and Leviton Structured wiring..... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-My-surge-suppressor-and-Leviton-Structured-wiring-18076562 Make an RJ11 cable with some leftover CAT5.
Also, ground that coax grounding block.

Looks great otherwise.
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All conductors should be protected where they enter the building and bonded together with large gauge conductor. The idea is to minimize voltage difference between conductors during disturbances.

/Tom]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-My-surge-suppressor-and-Leviton-Structured-wiring-17980155 Sat, 10 Mar 2007 20:50:09 EDT Re: My surge suppressor and Leviton Structured wiring..... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-My-surge-suppressor-and-Leviton-Structured-wiring-17979237 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-My-surge-suppressor-and-Leviton-Structured-wiring-17979237 Sat, 10 Mar 2007 17:37:53 EDT My surge suppressor and Leviton Structured wiring..... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/My-surge-suppressor-and-Leviton-Structured-wiring-17978227
Levtion whole house surge suppressor was my choice after a lot of thinking....I wanted a local distributor where I can purchase it and if ever warrant it also...

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