 LokerPremium
join:2004-07-11
Fargo, ND | PLEASE! I am begging you Comcast please do not communicate a clear cap  I don't wanna be limited to 60 GB's a month |
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join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
kudos:18 | said by Loker:I am begging you Comcast please do not communicate a clear cap I don't wanna be limited to 60 GB's a month Yeah! No shit! 
Inviso-caps are WAY better than 50-60GB stated caps!
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| said by dadkins:said by Loker:I am begging you Comcast please do not communicate a clear cap I don't wanna be limited to 60 GB's a month Yeah! No shit! Inviso-caps are WAY better than 50-60GB stated caps! They at least send a letter, or temporarly shut you off, so you can resolve the issue, or switch. I would HATE an actual cap, as I am too lazy to plot my usage, and would hate to have to check a site each day to see where my monthly total is at. But we don't have this problem anyway, so it's all good. 
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 kpfx
join:2005-10-28
San Antonio, TX
·RoadRunner Cable
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Well, personally I think stating a cap is like placing a food limit on that all-you-can-eat buffet.
For my $6 I do expect to get all the food my stomach can handle, but I also know there's going to be some reasonable limits. There's no way they're going to let me hang out all day while taking whole trays of food back to my table...  |
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openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
kudos:2 | If Comcast comes out and states what the cap is, then it wouldn't be like an all-you-can-eat buffet. That's kind of the point of this argument. I would much rather eat at the buffet that costs $6 when I know I can eat 3 plates rather than the buffet that costs $10 when I think I might be able to eat 4, or 5, or maybe 10 plates, but might be cut off by the restaurant at some point during my 5th plate because they believe I'm eating too much. |
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DMS1
join:2005-04-06
Carrollton, TX | reply to kpfx
said by kpfx:There's no way they're going to let me hang out all day while taking whole trays of food back to my table... Your last comment is the key analogy. Hanging out all day is abusing the general idea and costing the restaurant money, but it isn't directly affecting other diners. However, as soon as you snatch most of the food as soon as it comes out then it is your peers who suffer. This seems to be exactly Comcast's (very sensible in my opinion) approach - go after those who impact other users. |
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 JTRockvilleData HoPremium,MVM
join:2002-01-28
Rockville, MD
 ·Verizon FiOS
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Re: PLEASE! said by Loker:I am begging you Comcast please do not communicate a clear cap I don't wanna be limited to 60 GB's a month You must have a really low opinion of Comcast or HFC networks to suggest that they'd set the cap so low. |
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LokerPremium
join:2004-07-11
Fargo, ND | said by JTRockville:said by Loker:I am begging you Comcast please do not communicate a clear cap I don't wanna be limited to 60 GB's a month You must have a really low opinion of Comcast or HFC networks to suggest that they'd set the cap so low. no I have a low opinion of corporations in general.....just look at the numbers for other companies that have set caps....DSL or cable...
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I really believe that their cap limit is around 30 gigs a month but if you download from the newsgroups using giganews it's about 2 gigs a month actually. |
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Ahrenl
join:2004-10-26
North Andover, MA | reply to DJ_Kismuth
Re: All You Can Eat!! They didn't say no caps.. they said no "hard" caps. |
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 KAD ImagingJust Shoot ItPremium
join:2002-09-21
Hialeah, FL | reply to Loker
Re: PLEASE! said by Loker:said by JTRockville:said by Loker:I am begging you Comcast please do not communicate a clear cap I don't wanna be limited to 60 GB's a month You must have a really low opinion of Comcast or HFC networks to suggest that they'd set the cap so low. no I have a low opinion of corporations in general.....just look at the numbers for other companies that have set caps....DSL or cable... BZZZZZZT!!! Sorry....NO CAPS on DSL!! (Bellsouth anyways) Record = 27 days 4 hours and it was my server that crapped out and had to be rebooted. Gotta love the Crapcast fanboys. 
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| reply to dadkins
Inviso-caps are WAY better than 50-60GB stated caps!
To quote some detractors, what are people doing to hit 50-60 Gigs a month??? That's a lot to download! 
Yeah I'm sorta kidding. I can hit that but it would take some work. Now I'm on DSL and MRTG and vnstat shows I should be using about 21-30 Gigs this month with normal usage. I'm curious how Comcast came up with the numbers I was accused of. Weird.
What's interesting is Comcast would benefit from infrastructure such as Utopianet but fight against it. Go figure.
Anyway, I've always thought we should remove the speed limit signs myself and guess how fast I should be driving.
Heck, if I purchase a piece of clothing from a store (for example), I'd expect it to be the right size, style or even color I'm looking for. From a business perspective, Comcast kicking people off is no different than walking to a store and the clerk puts an article of clothing in a bag and telling you it's what you really wanted to purchase. Really it is.
That being said, Comcast really should join the rest of the world and advertise what we really purchased. Other Cable Internet companies are doing just that.
Speaking of which, I've heard chatter about Comcast limits of 40, 60 and 80 gigs at some point being announced. Don't recall who told me that. I've been pouring through my hand written notes. I must have lost it or something. I'm wondering if this is true. Also I understand they have a system that will allow you to monitor your traffic but it's not enabled currently.
If I recall properly, I heard this from some guy in Atlanta Georgia last week as we chatted over the phone. He was disconnected by Comcast in February and was willing to chat with reporters in the area about it. So stay tuned. There is a lot more of this coming as I am directing people to chat with the media. |
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I really believe that their cap limit is around 30 gigs a month but if you download from the newsgroups using giganews it's about 2 gigs a month actually.
I agree. I've been using MRTG and vnstat to monitor my current DSL usage. With normal usage I'm using about 21-30 gigs a month. So I think 40 or 60 Gigs is unlikely to be the cap. I think it's MUCH lower than that. |
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said by CLEVELTECH:I really believe that their cap limit is around 30 gigs a month but if you download from the newsgroups using giganews it's about 2 gigs a month actually. That can't be true everywhere for Comcast. I use Giganews and have a 25GB account which I occasionally go over when downloading lots of music and movies. |
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LokerPremium
join:2004-07-11
Fargo, ND | reply to KAD Imaging
said by KAD Imaging:BZZZZZZT!!! Sorry....NO CAPS on DSL!! (Bellsouth anyways) Record = 27 days 4 hours and it was my server that crapped out and had to be rebooted. Gotta love the Crapcast fanboys. there are plenty of DSL companies with caps...just because your company doesn't does not mean other companies are willing to eat the bandwidth costs on the higher users....
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LokerPremium
join:2004-07-11
Fargo, ND | reply to CLEVELTECH
said by CLEVELTECH:I really believe that their cap limit is around 30 gigs a month but if you download from the newsgroups using giganews it's about 2 gigs a month actually. are you nuts?
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 joetaxpayerI'M Here Till Thursday
join:2001-09-07
Sudbury, MA | reply to kpfx
said by kpfx:Well, personally I think stating a cap is like placing a food limit on that all-you-can-eat buffet. There is no appropriate analogy for the cap situation.
What is a bit disconcerting is that Comcast doesn't have a odometer where one can check their usage. I've never gotten a letter, and my big file downloads are random and infrequent. But I don't know if one month I'll have pushed my luck. Probably not. |
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said by kpfx:Well, personally I think stating a cap is like placing a food limit on that all-you-can-eat buffet. Ok, well how about this. Do you really think the "all you can eat" place will let you sit at the same table for 10 hours, and have 3 different meals worth for $6, NO, because you paid to fill up once. Comcast is doing similar. They are saying "please stop eating so much bandwidth, or we're going to have to ask you to leave", and when you continue, they usher you out the door. Whats wrong with that. In my opinion, if you're disrupting my service, and everyone else around me, because your a greedy pig, then don't let the door hit ya on the way out! 
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said by joetaxpayer:What is a bit disconcerting is that Comcast doesn't have a odometer where one can check their usage. I've never gotten a letter, and my big file downloads are random and infrequent. But I don't know if one month I'll have pushed my luck. Probably not. GOD PEOPLE WAKE UP!!! It's not like every node is deployed in a uniform fashion! There can never be a "specific" limit enforced, because it's based upon area usage patterns, and how you as an individual impact the rest of the users. If my node has 90 people, but somehow you manage to tie up 80% of the available overhead, then your @$$ needs to go, plain and simple. However, if there is only 40 people on the node, you are not as likely to stress out your neighbors by "pounding away" on the downloads, hence, you'll never get a letter. I myself do not expect to suffer, however, with a hard cap just to please a bunch of idiots who think it should be in writing. I'd much rather get a letter, resolve the issue and either move to a smaller neighborhood, or switch to another provider. You will only see "easy to hit" "caps" if you're in a heavily populated area, and your usage is far beyond the norm. So if you live in Hillbilly heaven, and the "interweb" is what people use, you may have 140 users on your node who don't do jack with their connection, but if you slow them down, or affect them negatively, you'll get the boot, not them.
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