BellSouthBS
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Re: This is B.S
Most of the money comes from spectrum auctions mandated by the "BUDGET REDUCTION ACT OF 1996." |
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BellSouthBS
join:2002-03-07
Fort Lauderdale, FL | reply to Farley3
This bill was sponsored by REPUBLICANS years ago. Democrats cut this by 20% and applied a 2 cap limit and other restrictions. |
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nixen
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said by cdru  :said by Old_Grouch :Ummm, didn't NASCAR recently run one of its first races with unleaded? And, gee - the cars went fast. Indy Car is using ethanol this year in it's races. Coulda sworn they've been using alcohol as fuel for longer than just this year (and they aren't the only ones). |
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proletarian2
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bullshit, republicans overwhelmingly take more/get contributions from corporations over democrats.
do your homework, son. |
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KrK
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said by fiberguy :EVERY - ONE - OWNS - THE - AIR - WAVES! Why are you telling me something I already said? Hello I already said it was the sale of the *Public* Spectrum. Public as in, everyone. Once sold however it will be privately owned.EVERYONE gets the benefit from the profit in this case. The government invalidated everyone's TV over night. Overnight? You mean as in the 10+ year phased in rollout of HDTV and phase-out of SD OTA? That kinda overnight? That's a really, really long night!
I'd have to disagree that everyone will benefit. If they'd just cut everyone a check or applied the money to the deficeit, then I'd agree with you that *everyone* benefited. But this "voucher" system to give certain people a discount to buy a special HDTV OTA downverter back to SD TV to make their older TV work really is just a big handout to which ever companies will be selling the boxes.
So I'll say it again. Yes, this is a GIVE-AWAY of the taxpayer's money derived from the sale of a public asset, and yes, I still think it's a WASTE.
Don't compare YOUR desires in life to others.. it doesn't work... not in this country.  Why do you keep taking your behavior and trying to apply it to me?
I go off on stupidity. There is plenty of it around here. I'm sorry I don't conform to the socialistic views that many here do.. those that feel entitled.. LOL Said by the one who is all for Government handouts to fund people's Television habits!! Nice...
BTW Reading your cheap insults is getting old. I'm getting tired of it on every thread. Keep it up and I'll just start reversing your own speech back on you... in this case that would mean pointing out that you are a "Stupid Uneducated Hating Butt-Wipe". Which actually sounds about right. Nothing like your own words to truly define who you are as a person, eh? |
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fiberguy
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EVERY - ONE - OWNS - THE - AIR - WAVES!
EVERYONE gets the benefit from the profit in this case. The government invalidated everyone's TV over night.
So, "PUH-LEASE" why don't YOU come down off that cross. GIVE AWAY? HAH! Go back to your master and put your leash back on.
Don't compare YOUR desires in life to others.. it doesn't work... not in this country. If that was the case, we'd all praise Jesus, marry once, and slavery would most likely still be legal. So what if you lived with out a TV. Two issues here remain,.. everyone is getting the voucher. As legal owners of the waves, who all have paid for (based on the way our society sees it to be fair) everyone gets the voucher.
On the flip side, alot of tax payers who may never had had a phone line are getting a refund for the phone tax. Some of those people never paid it.. poor people, using your hatred rant, DID pay it but if they didn't pay taxes because they are too poor, they don't get the refund, right? Here is an example where some people got the refund who never paid if while others that did, don't.
The feds are giving EVERYONE a voucher and that's insane to you? I fail to see your point.
And as for your uneducated review of my postings.. I go off on stupidity. There is plenty of it around here. I'm sorry I don't conform to the socialistic views that many here do.. those that feel entitled.. sorry that's not good enough for you. Don't EVER make the damn mistake to EVER apologize in my name butt-wipe.
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fiberguy
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Re: Yes
Poor people do pay taxes. Define poor!
Also, the public owns the airwaves here. If the government signs a law that forces all people to basically outdate their televisions in the sign of a pen, then some of the profits of the sales can certainly go back to the legal owners of those airwaves.
I fail to see your reasoning as to why poor people are freeloaders here.
You also FAILED to read that ALL AMERICANS get 2 $40 vouchers.. not just the poor.
And sometimes, the government has to get involved to help those that can't help themselves.
Get with it if you're going to bash people please.
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cdru
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Re: This is B.S
said by Old_Grouch :Ummm, didn't NASCAR recently run one of its first races with unleaded? And, gee - the cars went fast. Indy Car is using ethanol this year in it's races.
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Maccawolf
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No, I don't need TV to live, but I certainly don't like being FORCED to upgrade my perfectly good set because some yabo has decided that OTA will no longer be analog.
$40 whole dollars doesn't go very far in this.......
P.S. I don't have cable tv. I only have it for my computer. It's not a NECESSITY for me to have cable TV, I'd rather spend MY hard earned dollars elsewhere thank you very much
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Re: Yes
So far, I see people complaining about price, but no one mentioned:
THIS IS AN ENTERTAINMENT PRODUCT
It isn't a neceity to live. If you want entertainment, pay for it. I think if the government wants to give out coupons, it is a bad idea to try and discount an entertainment product. Give that money to school systems, not help the people that don't want to afford cable buy something so they can sit home and watch more TV.
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TOPDAWG
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No being a rep has noting to do with it. I think people should earn their way in life. I'm a nice guy people always need a helping hand I'm fine with it. Exp I do volunteer work at the local food bank in town here.
However TV is not something you need to live. If they're to poor to have a TV then them watching some retarded reality show is not going to improve their lives.
Also I live in Canada so this does not effect me. Also poor people don't pay taxes they would get it all the money back or even extra back that they never paid in.
The US is rewarding people for failing and not holding it's own people to a standard. People always tell the government stay out of my life but when they want something they're all government get in my life. |
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KrK
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Re: This is B.S
said by Toguro :This money is coming from the auction of the analog spectrum. Yeah, but the spectrum is considered a public asset, and is being sold into private ownership. That's not necessarily bad in itself, but the money could have been spent on something more useful, like deficeit reduction....
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KrK
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said by Farley3 :Take from Group A give to Group B, your Democrats hard at work.
"Take from Working Class Group A give to Wealthy Group B, your Republicans hard at work."
Gotta love politics. |
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KrK
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You have to forgive FiberGuy... If you read the threads you'll notice his favorite habit is to go off like a rocket with false moral outrage and he will then flame you from his high position of "Superior Morality".
Do you not care that some people live in crime ridden areas simply because they can't afford anything better? How about those that literally scape to eat.. their TV is the only form of a hint of entertainment and you want to remove deny them of that? Puh-lease. Only form of entertainment? I spent several years living in a home without a TV. Guess what I found plenty of things to do like READING BOOKS for one. Man I loved the Library....
Come down off your high horse. This "give-away" is a giant waste of money.
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Desdinova
join:2003-01-26
Gaithersburg, MD | reply to patcat88
Man, there was just NOTHING going on!  |
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M A R K
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said by Farley3 :said by tpac_man :What a great way to waste my hard earned money.... and best of all... I don't even qualify to receive the coupons... I hate this crap that the Government is doing. Bastards! Take from Group A give to Group B, your Democrats hard at work. Get a fucking grip. How about take all from group "American Middle Class" and give it to Israel, Iraq, Haliberton and big OIL" This bull shit should be funded by tax money. After all the freed MHZ are to be sold to more horse shit media companies and others digital whores.
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patcat88
join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
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said by Desdinova :I agree with TopDawg on this one; comparing TV and medical services is quite a stretch. As for TV being the only way these folks can entertain themselves, well, I just have to thank God I was born after 1947 when entertainment was invented. The previous 40,000 years or so of human history must have been terribly boring with absolutely nothing fun to do... There is war, spreading Christianity, trying to attract aliens, executing leaders, doing crime, more sex, getting entertainment from nature, drinking, going to "church" (socializing). |
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fiberguy
My views are my own.
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Re: Yes
Hey TopDog.. I suppose that the poor people who also do pay taxes don't deserve to have some of their ownership back?
The money is coming from the sale of the spectrum. Since all tax payers own the spectrum, I suppose it's their's to have back in the first place. Would you rather big bad government have the money? or rebate it to all citizens?
However, I'd expect nothing less from a republican - and yes, that's an assumption because you're certainly talking like one.
Disclaimer: I am neither republican or democrat nor of the independent party, or green party.
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AnonymousPerson
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Re: This is B.S
Short of having 90% of the seats in both houses to account for moderates and bureaucratic restrictions, do you think that any given party with a majority in both houses is really in power, especially considering the fillibuster in the Senate and the 2/3 majority in both houses required to propose constitutional ammendments to the states? |
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Old_Grouch
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Ummm, didn't NASCAR recently run one of its first races with unleaded? And, gee - the cars went fast.
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