nasadude
join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD | competition the american way
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
| said by nasadude  :that's the spirit, don't compete on price, product or service - sue their @sses! Well as a consumer if a company is promoting something that is not true, hell yes I'd sue. Say what you mean and mean what you say. DirectTVs HD isn't even REAL HD anyways. It's called HD Lite. So I'm not sure how they are going to offer 100X more channels when the 6-8 they offer aren't even in real HD. |
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DaSneaky1D
one wall to block them all
Premium,MVM
join:2001-03-29
The Lou
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2 edits | "HD Lite" is a concocted term meant to spread FUD. The quality is just fine.
EDIT - Yes, resampling is there, but it is nonetheless HD.
Incidently, according to Wikipedia, TWC resamples in this fashion as well:
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hd_lite
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NOCMan
Verizon Fios User
Premium
join:2004-09-30
Flower Mound, TX
| Care to prove HD Lite is FUD?
I've seen plenty examples to prove that the satellite providers dumb down the signal to skimp on used bandwidth.
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dispatcher21
join:2004-01-22
united state
| reply to DaSneaky1D
No, it is not HD. HD is 1280x720 or 1920x1080, not 1280x1080 that Directv is trying to pass as HD. There is no FUD about it, Directv does not offer true HD, but neither does Dishnetwork or many other cable providers. To my knowledge(as a few years ago), only Comcast offers HDTV channels without altering the data stream from the source. |
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DaSneaky1D
one wall to block them all
Premium,MVM
join:2001-03-29
The Lou
·Charter Pipeline
| reply to NOCMan
I'm not saying re-sampling is not happening. Saying that any re-sampling is totally destroys the picture is FUD. The quality (of course, totally subjective) is fine.
And what's wrong with trying to conserve bandwidth? Unlike terrestrial services, you can't really upgrade bandwidth to space too easily.
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
| reply to DaSneaky1D
said by DaSneaky1D :"HD Lite" is a concocted term meant to spread FUD. The quality is just fine. EDIT - Yes, resampling is there, but it is nonetheless HD. Incidently, according to Wikipedia, TWC resamples in this fashion as well: » en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hd_lite So what if TWC uses this? I'm not in TWC territory. TWC is not on TV having Dr Brown say how they are going to have 100X more HD capacity when they don't even have the capacity for 8 HD channles NOW. Here's a novel ideal, how about telling me you have 100X the HD capacity WHEN YOU ACTUALLY HAVE IT. |
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lovswr
join:2001-09-15
Stockbridge, GA | reply to DaSneaky1D
Yes HD lite is a term of derision used by us customers, but I can assure you the "quality" is not fine at all.
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na
@tsaadvet.com
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said by dispatcher21 :No, it is not HD. HD is 1280x720 or 1920x1080, not 1280x1080 that Directv is trying to pass as HD. There is no FUD about it, Directv does not offer true HD, but neither does Dishnetwork or many other cable providers. To my knowledge(as a few years ago), only Comcast offers HDTV channels without altering the data stream from the source. Wrong! Anything over 1280x720 is HD. It doesn't specifically have to be 1280x720 or 1920x1080. Another reason they call it HD lite is because it is bit starved, not necessarily because of the resolution.
»www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t···=hd+lite |
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PolarBear
The bear formerly known as aaron8301
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join:2005-01-03
·CableOne
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Um, have you done some simple math? IF one variety of HD, as you say, is 1280x720 and DirecTV is broadcasting at 1280x1080, isn't that better? 1280x1080 is MORE pixels than 1280x720.
I've seen DirecTV HD channels on dozens of different HDTVs, and I think the quality is excellent. However if you don't, don't complain about it, simply don't subscribe to the service. No one is forcing you to watch DirecTV. The fact that someone will sue simply because they don't like the service is ridiculous. In my experience, if you don't like the service, go with another provider.
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dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
Premium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ | reply to nasadude
"3 times the HD of cable. . . ."
I don't think so. HD-LITE is *NOT* HD!
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thender2
Glamour Profession
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join:2004-05-16
Staten Island, NY
| reply to DaSneaky1D
I think it does.
There are a lot of 1080p TVs on the market now.
We already dumb it down enough by using 1080i and 720p, why dumb it down even further? That's another step backwards I don't want to take.
Don't you dare say it's for compatibility purposes, either. Because I know several hundred thousand to millions of people with HDTVs that don't support HDCP that, come bluray/HDDVD time, are going to want their money back.
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fiberguy
My views are my own.
Premium
join:2005-05-20
| reply to nasadude
ND,
If your ISP doesn't provide the service for HSI that is advertised, wouldn't you sue? It's the theme around here.
DirecTV is making claims that are just not true. DirecTV is trying ti influence people to leave TWC for them claiming that they can offer more HD than cable.. "three times more"...
1) can they now? No. It's a lie.
2) can they in the future? It remains to be seen. It's possible that TWC may beat DirecTV in offering HD networks. But, in the end, you can't advertise claims on speculation.
This is similar to satellite saying that they are all digital unlike cable. If you notice, those ads started to disappear finally because more and more, cable is becoming all digital. Even with Comcast offering ADS in many systems, Satellite still continued to advertise that cable wasn't all digital.
You can't make claims that aren't true when it damages the business potential of the other guy..
So yes... a law suit is in order.
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fiberguy
My views are my own.
Premium
join:2005-05-20
| reply to thender2
said by thender2 :Don't you dare say it's for compatibility purposes, either. Because I know several hundred thousand to millions of people with HDTVs that don't support HDCP that, come bluray/HDDVD time, are going to want their money back. They can want all they want.
Here's a good example of stupid America. This is the mentality of people who think they are owed believing that. The bottom line is you buy something with a price on it.. you purchased what you did. There is no "I want my money back".. there is no "victim" here.. People spend way too much time finding others to blame for their own lack of care in making choices.
Let them want their money back - I'd simply put them in a category of needing remedial education since they obviously can't function in the real world or reality.
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Jobastion
@comcast.net
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If it were 1280x720p vs 1280x1080p, then yes, it would be better. DirectTV apparently broadcasts at 1280x1080i... which pixel wise calculates as 1280x540p. And that, is less than HD resolution, hence the griping.
That's 691,200 pixels per frame (technically, per refresh, but I'm so not going there) on Direct TV, with the lowest standard of HDTV running at 921,600 pixels per refresh.
End result is DirectTV broadcasting at ~%75 percent of the low end of HDTV.
Also, that's not 16x9... that's not even a 4x3 ratio... that some funky 32x27 ratio. Closer to a square than even SDTV. Weird. |
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