  inGearX 3.1415 9265
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| VPS you can recommend?
I am looking to host a J2EE app... and would also need mod_jk or so... so I would probably want a VPS... (this is just for personal use)
Can anyone recommend any VPS or any other recommendations are very much appreciated!
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  gabeman
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I would recommend going for a host that uses Xen over one that uses Virtuozzo. Virtuozzo doesn't seem to let user access swap, so if you run out of memory, your applications will crash. This makes compiling stuff near impossible. |
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  nightshade74 Yet another genxer Premium join:2004-11-06 Prattville, AL | reply to inGearX I've had good luck with both vpslink and rapidvps. If you need hand holding RapidVPS will do more of that... |
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  devrandom I got a pot, full of random stuff here Premium join:2003-06-28
| reply to gabeman said by gabeman :» leeware.comI would recommend going for a host that uses Xen over one that uses Virtuozzo. Virtuozzo doesn't seem to let user access swap, so if you run out of memory, your applications will crash. This makes compiling stuff near impossible. Yeah, Virtuozzo manages the swap for the VPS (as I last understood it) as a method of ensuring service quality for the entire server (if everybody made huge swap files and started going at it on a hardware node, it'd be bad).
You have to be careful when selecting Virtuozzo plans from VPS providers though. There are two types of accounting for which your VPS' limits come from:
UBC is short for User Beancounters, which was the old way to do Virtuozzo VPS accounting. When you buy a plan from a provider under this method of accounting, you get soft/hard limits on mundane things like TCP sockets, the number of file descriptors you can have open, etc. The variables from providers who use UBC are typically not the same (tweaking them properly requires someone who really knows what they're doing).
You're generally able to hit the wall (or so to speak) faster under UBC. As earlier though, it totally depends on the host, and if they know what they're doing. You can always ask for a copy of /proc/user_beancounters under the plan that you want to see how they set things up, and compare in between hosts.
The newer accounting method, called SLM actually creates some standardization across hosts. You're basically given an amount of SLM ram, and this works more like a real dedicated server. If you start to run out of SLM memory, Virtuozzo will try to delay execution of whatever you're doing, or nail a thread of the process you're trying to execute (and its fairly "smart" at doing the nailing so you won't end up with something like sshd gone).
Xen is actually not immune from these problems since you can hit the kernel OOM killer (Linux--what most people are using for Xen hosting).
You can work around it by creating a swap file on your particular disk partition, and turning it on (although this does in effect create disk i/o problems for your neighbors if you start railing your swapfile/disk i/o).
Aside from the technicalities, I would choose a host that makes you happy. If you get a nice plush host that takes good care of you (and makes the proper recommendations as needed for upgrading/downgrading), you should be able to ignore all the little technical details. There are no such things as perfect hosts though, so pick to your needs. |
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 CobraPA
join:2001-10-03 Lansdale, PA
1 edit | reply to inGearX I'll second rapidvps, I've had an account with them for something like 6mo and been happy with it. If you'd like a referal link, hit up the last guy above, or me if he doesn't have an account.
Does anyone else have other vps they recommend? rapidvps is FL hosted and I'd like to setup a second account in a geographically diverse location.
Oh, and rapid uses Virtuozzo. I've compiled a couple things there and never had trouble, but I wouldn't do any really large builds, I suppose. |
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  nightshade74 Yet another genxer Premium join:2004-11-06 Prattville, AL
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| said by CobraPA :Does anyone else have other vps they recommend? rapidvps is FL hosted and I'd like to setup a second account in a geographically diverse location. Yeah I've been a rapidvps customer now for about 8 months. Good, solid and honest....
I've also been a vpslink.com customer for 3 or 4 months. Good service and located in Seattle, WA. They're the un-managed brand of sprye who is having a sale »www.spry.com/webmin-vps/ |
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 CobraPA
join:2001-10-03 Lansdale, PA
| reply to gabeman leeware looks interesting, have you used them? I haven't investigated shared cpu/shared bandwidth setups before. How do you find the performance?
said by nightshade74 :I've also been a vpslink.com customer for 3 or 4 months. Good service and located in Seattle, WA. They're the un-managed brand of sprye who is having a sale » www.spry.com/webmin-vps/ vpslink and spry both look interesting, and one of spry's plans is unmetered bw... very cool. What do you think of their network performance? Usually it seems the unmetered looks like a good deal, but the overall throughput of the server will be limited either by the virtual server performance itself, or full network bw at that server. (But I think it's still one of the best deals around. ) |
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  nightshade74 Yet another genxer Premium join:2004-11-06 Prattville, AL
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| I've been doing about 300GB a month on a »www.vpslink.com/vps-hosting/ Link-4 with very good results.
I've also had EXCELLENT service from 15minuteservers.com at times moving 800Gig in a month with no slowdown or whimpering. Granted it's dedicated and not VPS but if you move to self managed dedicated they're great.
They run on nac.net's network (same as dslreports) with excellent uptime /speed. |
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  gabeman
join:2001-05-03 Philadelphia, PA clubs:
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1 edit | reply to CobraPA said by CobraPA :leeware looks interesting, have you used them? I haven't investigated shared cpu/shared bandwidth setups before. How do you find the performance? Yes, I am actually using them now. It has been rock solid so far. I've convinced a friend or two to sign up and none of them have had any issues either.
The performance is fine for what I am using it for (a small web server). There have been period when I've not been able to get more than 100kb/sec, but they didn't last long. -- Rest in Peace Hunter S Thompson.
"There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die." |
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 Ctmtnbkr
join:2001-05-04 Glastonbury, CT
| reply to inGearX I have to throw in a two thumbs up for RapidVPS.
The service has been excellent and support outstanding.
Not knowing a lot about the process, they made the transition easy.
Rick and the crew over there have been great.
Highly recommended |
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  VLAD
@bell.ca | reply to inGearX Leeware VPS --- NOT SUPPORT!!! 30h server not work!! |
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  gabeman
join:2001-05-03 Philadelphia, PA clubs:
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| said by VLAD :
Leeware VPS --- NOT SUPPORT!!! 30h server not work!! Obviously, we don't know what your situation is, BUT the VPS is unmanaged. If your issue is due to a configuration problem, there is no guarantee that anyone will help you fix it.
Some general advice for VPSs: if you don't know what you're doing, get a managed VPS. It will save you a lot of grief. -- Rest in Peace Hunter S Thompson."There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die." |
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 CobraPA
join:2001-10-03 Lansdale, PA
| reply to VLAD Yeah, maybe you could explain what happened...
From reading leeware's site, they don't seem to be heavy on tech support. That does make me a little concerned about them. I guess all I really want from a VPS provider is the turn on to be smooth, login and ip's setup quickly. And then if I hosed up the remote access on initial setup, they can reset me in 4-8 hrs. If their turnaround is 30 hrs, then that's a problem. |
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