Topic 'Piracy will never end' in forum ''

Topic 'Piracy will never end' in forum '' - dslreports.com http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Piracy-will-never-end-17999461 en Fri, 10 Feb 2012 08:00:09 EDT Fri, 10 Feb 2012 08:00:09 EDT Re: Piracy will never end http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Piracy-will-never-end-18010429 People are waaaaaaay too greedy these days.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Piracy-will-never-end-18010429 Fri, 16 Mar 2007 07:33:39 EDT Re: Piracy will never end http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Piracy-will-never-end-18009407
It's never our fault. We're quick to sue when anything goes wrong. We must be told in bold red letters that the coffee is not just hot but EXTREMELY hot. And if it's not hot we bitch and even sue if it makes us sick. We contaminate our own food with human body parts or rodents on the demented hope that we might get rich. Oh and hair dryers and bathtubs, someone combined them and now we have hieroglyphics on the cord that suggest it's a really bad idea unless we intend suicide. And dammit, if we don't get cheap gas, cheap milk, cheap Chinese crap at Wal Mart, free software, free music and the God-given right to make a backup copies of our DVDs, there must be a conspiracy!

Bottom line, people are greedy assholes regardless of whether they are on the producer or consumer side of the fence. It's universal in that it drives consumerism and terrorism although the latter has nothing to do with business and everything to do with a few dudes with really small dicks who compensate by using big guns to oppress everyone so they can bread generational hate and declare themselves king of the shit hole all in the name of an extreme interpretation of God.

In general, we really suck at getting along. If America didn't enjoy such prosperity, we'd all shoot each other at the local water hole. Instead we just bitch because our Bit Torrent neighbor makes our streaming HD porn video jitter at the wrong time and we have to rewind and play the cum shot again.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Piracy-will-never-end-18009407 Thu, 15 Mar 2007 23:47:58 EDT Re: Piracy will never end http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Piracy-will-never-end-18009400 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Piracy-will-never-end-18009400 Thu, 15 Mar 2007 23:45:15 EDT Re: Piracy will never end http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Piracy-will-never-end-18004478
I cannot, for the life of me, understand why Reagan was so popular on this. He busted the Air Traffic Controller union, and started to deregulate corporations. In modern times, Reagan was the number one president to call for more corporate greed, and as a result of this, corporations are greedier than they have ever been in my lifetime.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Piracy-will-never-end-18004478 Thu, 15 Mar 2007 07:26:59 EDT Re: Piracy will never end http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Piracy-will-never-end-18003840 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Piracy-will-never-end-18003840 Thu, 15 Mar 2007 00:50:03 EDT Re: Piracy will never end http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Piracy-will-never-end-18003620 said by Wills:

said by Boricua65:

It goes to show how much of a losing battle to stop piracy is. MPAA, RIAA - they've been trying without much success.

I think you're comparing apples to oranges.

Pirating software is much different than pirating music. Software is a different medium and used much differently. Mixed with updates that verify validity and service packs that do the same pirating software doesn't pay off as much as music.

I had a pirated copy of XP just like everyone else. I got tired of work arounds and crap to get it to update after SP2 and simply went out and bought it. I did the same with a pirated copy of FrontPage. I've done it with other software.

I've never, EVER, bought an album after I pirated the music. There's no point. It's already there. It's not going to change. There isn't going to be updates and other things to make pirating it not worth it.
Oh brother, where to begin. Pirating is pirating. I don't see how there is any difference between software and music. The "mediums" aren't different, they are all zeros and ones. Software costs more per "file" if you will than a song file does so I would think pirating software is more damaging. Regardless, next point.

You mentioned you could not upgrade your pirated copy of Windows XP to Service Pack 2 status. Well, your not a very good pirate, or you don't look hard enough. The latest version of everything is out there. I don't think pirates actually worry about updates, they most likely download the latest version of the program from wherever not long after the program is released.
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Piracy-will-never-end-18003620 Wed, 14 Mar 2007 23:53:33 EDT Re: Piracy will never end http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Piracy-will-never-end-18002850 said by rradina:

When you say ...if their executives would be less greedy... do you mean that executive pay causes them to lose money or the executive's strategy of greed leads to disgruntled customers and more piracy?

Regarding greed, this article explains why executives must be greedy.

»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodge_v._F···_Company
First of all, give me a break, the article you cited is from almost a century ago. Corporations are MUCH more greedy these days than they were.
When I speak of greed, I mean that everyone wants everything. They are not willing to settle for a piece of the pie, they want the whole darn thing.

And yes, executives' large compensation, be it stock options, salary, or platinum parachutes, causes there to be less profits, because this compensation has to be paid for from what should be profits.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Piracy-will-never-end-18002850 Wed, 14 Mar 2007 21:29:27 EDT Re: Piracy will never end http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Piracy-will-never-end-18002784 said by roc5955:

Personally, I believe that, sadly, greed has taken over. Software, and music companies want to squeeze every penny out of their products. They claim that they are losing money, but wouldn't be if their executives would be less greedy.When you say ...if their executives would be less greedy... do you mean that executive pay causes them to lose money or the executive's strategy of greed leads to disgruntled customers and more piracy?

Regarding pay, although executives are highly compensated, I doubt Bill and Steve's salary and stock options significantly raise the software prices.

Regarding greed, this article explains why executives must be greedy.

»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodge_v._F···_Company]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Piracy-will-never-end-18002784 Wed, 14 Mar 2007 21:19:23 EDT Re: Piracy will never end http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Piracy-will-never-end-18002371 said by Wills:

said by Boricua65:

It goes to show how much of a losing battle to stop piracy is. MPAA, RIAA - they've been trying without much success.

I've never, EVER, bought an album after I pirated the music. There's no point. It's already there. It's not going to change. There isn't going to be updates and other things to make pirating it not worth it.
All my CDs, except older music... As I knew how it sounded already, was "pirated" by me first to see if there where more than a few songs worth a damn on the whole disc. Then I bought the better quality retail disc. The original disc still sounds better than a ripped high bit rate MP3. I want quality sound, not garbage. The only way I see a pirated disc can match the sound of the original disc is by making an image of the original, and burning it to CDR. However, nobody uploads 700+ MBs of CD Audio data for one audio disc.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Piracy-will-never-end-18002371 Wed, 14 Mar 2007 20:08:54 EDT Re: Piracy will never end http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Piracy-will-never-end-18001523 said by Maxo:

I don't have cable. I had it for less than a year but it wasn't worth it.
Wow you watch TV off of local airwaves? Ppl still do that? :hmm:]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Piracy-will-never-end-18001523 Wed, 14 Mar 2007 17:37:56 EDT Re: Piracy will never end http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Piracy-will-never-end-18001224 said by Wills:

I've never, EVER, bought an album after I pirated the music. There's no point. It's already there. It's not going to change. There isn't going to be updates and other things to make pirating it not worth it.
If I want an album I buy it. I like a professional CD for the music I really want.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Piracy-will-never-end-18001224 Wed, 14 Mar 2007 16:43:39 EDT Re: Piracy will never end http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Piracy-will-never-end-18000959 said by Wills:

I've never, EVER, bought an album after I pirated the music. There's no point. It's already there. It's not going to change. There isn't going to be updates and other things to make pirating it not worth it.
It's not apples to oranges, it's the same concept. Notwithstanding yourself, everyone who downloads is not a thief who has no intention whatsoever of ever paying a nickel for any music. Case in point. What about the people who only found the download in the first place because they couldn't find the tunes anywhere else because it was taken out of print? After downloading the tunes, they then decide they like the band enough go in search of the music that IS in print.
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Piracy-will-never-end-18000959 Wed, 14 Mar 2007 15:48:45 EDT Re: Piracy will never end http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Piracy-will-never-end-18000717 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Piracy-will-never-end-18000717 Wed, 14 Mar 2007 15:03:19 EDT Re: Piracy will never end http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Piracy-will-never-end-18000385 said by TechieZero:

Why d/l this? Its on TV every day on 3 channels multiple times. One word TiVo. :D
You don't even need a Tivo. Turn on Nickelodeon at any time of the day or night and odds are good you'll be catching an episode of Sponge Bob. I think I've seen every episode of Sponge Bob ever made just from walking through the room when the kids were watching it.
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I get your point, but it can work the other way around too. When my daughter just turned two my wife and I started looking into what the new kids programming was. We downloaded a bunch of SpongeBob. We had the seen the products at stores. We now own Seasons one through three as well as some toys and clothes. Viacom definitely made a profit off of that deal.
Why d/l this? Its on TV every day on 3 channels multiple times. One word TiVo. :D]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Piracy-will-never-end-18000322 Wed, 14 Mar 2007 13:50:00 EDT Re: Piracy will never end http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Piracy-will-never-end-18000239 said by roc5955:

May the Gods help me for agreeing with Maxo on this one.That is the only unforgivable sin of course. But, you were damned a while ago so carry on.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Piracy-will-never-end-18000239 Wed, 14 Mar 2007 13:34:58 EDT Re: Piracy will never end http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Piracy-will-never-end-18000158 not available in any format any more. Such is my case, there is a lot of music that simply flopped. Once the first release of the CD came out, they never even went for a second run. For example, George Harrison's Live in Tokyo album is great, but it was out of print for years. I wanted it, but couldn't find it, except for pirated MP3s out on the net, which I downloaded. Once I found out that it was back in print, I bought it right away.

Yes, pirating software is different than pirating music, but both have their own separate virtues. The person who cannot afford Photoshop (yes, I know about The Gimp, and use it) might decide to 'borrow' a copy from a friend or colleague to become proficient at the software. One can almost justify this.

You know, back in the old days, when software came on stone tablets, companies like Microsoft and Lotus, and Adobe would give away tons of their software, even though it was copy protected. Yes, there were ways around the copy protection, but wtf, if you can get it legit for free at PC Expo or something, carry on! These companies know that by allowing geeks like you and me to have these illegal copies of software, we become proficient at their software, and more often than not, get a job where the employer buys it and uses it. I'll bet that at least half of you out there have a pirated copy of some software.

And back in the old days when we had records that were made of beeswax, that would melt in the sun, Decca, Columbia, and a lot of big music publishers would give away copies of their recordings. Not so much today though.

Personally, I believe that, sadly, greed has taken over. Software, and music companies want to squeeze every penny out of their products. They claim that they are losing money, but wouldn't be if their executives would be less greedy.

May the Gods help me for agreeing with Maxo on this one.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Piracy-will-never-end-18000158 Wed, 14 Mar 2007 13:19:45 EDT Re: Piracy will never end http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Piracy-will-never-end-17999915 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Piracy-will-never-end-17999915 Wed, 14 Mar 2007 12:52:39 EDT Re: Piracy will never end http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Piracy-will-never-end-17999616 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Piracy-will-never-end-17999616 Wed, 14 Mar 2007 11:41:57 EDT Re: Piracy will never end http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Piracy-will-never-end-17999595 said by Boricua65:

It goes to show how much of a losing battle to stop piracy is. MPAA, RIAA - they've been trying without much success.
I think you're comparing apples to oranges.

Pirating software is much different than pirating music. Software is a different medium and used much differently. Mixed with updates that verify validity and service packs that do the same pirating software doesn't pay off as much as music.

I had a pirated copy of XP just like everyone else. I got tired of work arounds and crap to get it to update after SP2 and simply went out and bought it. I did the same with a pirated copy of FrontPage. I've done it with other software.

I've never, EVER, bought an album after I pirated the music. There's no point. It's already there. It's not going to change. There isn't going to be updates and other things to make pirating it not worth it.
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