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said by Kearnstd  :they just need to define unlimited, to us in the real world unlimited means no limits. however in legalese it clearly has limits and isnt really unlimited. They don't need to "define" anything. Plus, this topic, and my response, has nothing to do with what you're talking about, so you can hold your horses right there. It's THEIR network, and if they think you're causing problems with a 30 gig monthly usage, or a 100 gig monthly usage, it doesn't matter, because simply put, you're affecting your neighbors on the network. I wouldn't classify it as "limited" usage unless they DID impose a cap. Since the only people being kicked off the network are "large usage" users, I think it falls under the acceptable use policy. Don't get all huffy puffy at me because you had problems and I didn't. I can assure you I have used my connection pretty massively, yet, no letter. I use mine for legitimate reasons. I don't clog the pipe with VPN encryption junk. I don't download 10 to 15 pirated DVD's per month. I don't leave P2P apps open, or BitTorrent open all night. I don't run constant video streams 24/7, even when I'm not watching the computer. I DID run a VoIP chatline, that used a bit of bandwidth, but even still, no letter. By policy, Comcast can terminate your service if they see your usage is causing problems and alarms to generate in the headend. Usually when it is known you are the only one affecting others, a report is auto-generated. If you go a couple of months with extremely high usage, it will slide, but if you continue to use it in a disruptive manor, you know what will happen, you will be TOS'd. I consider it unlimited, as in I can't exceed a specified limit because none is specified, but I also know the TOS says if I disrupt others on the node with my usage, then my usage is not considered "average". Seriously folks, argue all you want, Comcast is not going to set a hard cap because it's different per node design, and it goes against the service they offer (per their TOS).
Try this logic on for size. All you can eat places WILL stop feeding you if you exceed a "norm". I have seen newspaper articles with disputes about this, as well as TV comedies, so I know it's common. If you "abuse" the system, knowingly, or unknowingly, it doesn't matter, it's still abuse from YOUR equipment.
There is MANY members in here that use the heck out of their connections, I am one, but there is lots of others that come to mind that have no issues, so until it appears to "be a problem" I say it's not a problem, and Comcast is fair in the way they "clean up" the network. Either limit your use, or go to a slower provider/alternative, because thats all that you'll have left. 
And to the "rediculous" comments about "hitting your cap" sooner. Well, since your being told you have "excessive use" and not "exceeding your limit" I would like to remind you that it takes greater capacity on the network itself to provide the faster speeds, so you have to figure those limits would be adjusted to compensate for the ability to use your connection more. 
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