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robo_mojo

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reply to Nanoprobe
Re: hurting overall performance sounds like something ...

That works as long as you can trust the other peer's client to report its name accurately

Hint: You can't.


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*Sigh* It doesn't matter what the other client reports or doesn't report. They can be blocked. I let one run all last nite just to test. 354 bans.
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robo_mojo

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said by Nanoprobe See Profile :

*Sigh* It doesn't matter what the other client reports or doesn't report. They can be blocked. I let one run all last nite just to test. 354 bans.
I think you completely miss the point.


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said by robo_mojo See Profile :

said by Nanoprobe See Profile :

*Sigh* It doesn't matter what the other client reports or doesn't report. They can be blocked. I let one run all last nite just to test. 354 bans.
I think you completely miss the point.
Then please explain to me what the point is.
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robo_mojo

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said by Nanoprobe See Profile :

Then please explain to me what the point is.
I'm pretty sure that we already did to some extent....... But read on, this will be interesting to you.

The name of the client is just something it is programmed to tell you. If I'm making my own BT client, can't I very well call it whatever I want? Don't you think I could make a client and have it tell you it is Azureus 2.5.0.4 when it really is something else of my own production? Or maybe I really DO have an Azureus client, but I have modified its code to employ a more selfish unchoking algorithm (there are already MANY such alterations of Azureus available online, it is a popular program for modding).

There are even clients that have functionality to allow the user to set the name it will report to other peers. For an example, look at this screen shot from G3 torrent (I'm not saying it is a bad client at all, but just to show that clients can do things like spoof their names easily): »g3torrent.sourceforge.net/spoofer.png

So, anyway, the point is that you can't assume a client is really the official Azureus or uTorrent just because it says it is. The more people use such name-based blocking (like you do with stuffer), the more that other clients will start calling themselves Azureus and uTorrent or something that's considered "good".

I hope that it makes sense now.
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