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Yahoo treating mail via smtpauth.sbcglobal.net as bulk?

I don't much use my ameritech/yahoo mail, except to periodically check the size of the bulk folder. However, I occasionally send a short test message, usually from my work system, and 9 times out of 10 that finishes up in the bulk folder.

I have been wondering whether plain text email, with no MIME headers at all, is automatically classified as bulk.
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reply to lev
There as a change about 3 weeks ago regarding AT&T use
of POP and SMTP carries. Those who use Outlook and Outlook
Express and some other programs would then need to change
the actual names of their respective POP and SMTP carrier
to reflect the change that AT&T made to its use with AT/Yahoo
email distribution. The actual email address showing an sbcglobal.net
would remain the same but there were some other changes.Open your
email client software and make the appropriate changes.

Incoming (POP) should read: pop.att.yahoo.com
Incoming mail server POP3 (pop.att.yahoo.com w/ SLL Encryp-
tion required)
Incoming mail port #995 (POP3)

Outgoing (SMTP) should read: smtp.att.yahoo.com
Outgoing mail server SMTP (smtp.att.yahoo.com (with SLL
Encrytption and Authentication Required)
Outgoing mail port #465 (SMTP)

Password: Remains th same
Email address: Remains the same

When finished configuring the email account, click "OK"
and apply and "finish" to the enable the new settings.

These settings have been in place for the last 3 weeks. If
one doesn't change their email software, they might
then lose some important email and everything could be
dumped into "bulk" folder.

For most email client software programs, one has the
ability to the :"test" their new settings. Its advisable
to do so. One might have to do the procedure twice.

NOTE: These changes were only for POP3 based email
client software programs. If one resorts to using the
AT&T/Yahoo web based software, no changes will have to
be made.

reply to lev
It doesn't appear to be universal. This one went straight to the Inbox:

X-Apparently-To: %User_ID%@yahoo.com via 68.142.199.149; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 16:46:25 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [207.115.36.82]
Return-Path: <%User_ID%@aosake.net>
Authentication-Results: mta179.mail.re3.yahoo.com  from=aosake.net; domainkeys=neutral (no sig)
Received: from 207.115.36.82  (EHLO nlpi053.sbcis.sbc.com) (207.115.36.82)
  by mta179.mail.re3.yahoo.com with SMTP; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 16:46:25 -0700
Received: from aosake.net (adsl-68-126-43-28.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net [68.126.43.28])
(authenticated bits=0)
by nlpi053.sbcis.sbc.com (8.13.8 smtpauth/dk/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l2HNjxxS011739
for <%User_ID%@yahoo.com>; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 18:46:01 -0500
Received: from Spooler by aosake.net (Mercury/32 v4.01b) ID MO000002;
  17 Mar 2007 16:46:20 -0700
Received: from spooler by aosake.net (Mercury/32 v4.01b); 17 Mar 2007 16:45:49 -0700
From: "NormanS" <%User__ID%@aosake.net>
To: %User__ID%@yahoo.com
Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 16:45:29 -0700
MIME-Version: 1.0
Subject: [TEST] Will this be junked?
Priority: normal
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41)
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Content-description: Mail message body
X-AC-Weight: [### ] -599
X-CC-Diagnostic: Header Organization contains "" (-599)
Message-ID: <36CCCB4CE0@aosake.net>
Content-Length: 97

reply to rexarolla

reply to NormanS
Was the originating address in the Yahoo address book of the receiving address?

If not, then maybe there was some other funky yahoo trigger.

reply to rexarolla
Well aware of the change, rexarolla. As Norman said, smtpauth.sbcglobal.net has been apparently unaffected, until posssibly now.

That's why I posted here, to search for more data.

reply to rexarolla

Depends what you mean by legacy.

If you're using mailhost.chi.ameritech.net, I don't think that it applies.

If you have an ameritech.net address but you're using pop.xxx.yahoo.com then it will.

reply to lev
For more clarification on AT&Ts change in email servers
one can then got toe the respective AT&T web page that then
explains all the details. There are about 10 separate
email servers that are then combined into the new category
" att.yahoo.com" This would also include any Ameritech
customers. The web based email has changed. This is only
for POP3 email accounts. the email address will remain the
same as will the login in and password will remain the
same. This is only a change of the email servers for the
outgoing (SMTP) and the incoming POP3) servers giving them
a name change and also port addresses. See the below
URL for more details:

»helpme.att.net/article.php?item=287

Unfortunately, AT&T hasn't publicized this change in
policy very much so a lot of people were left stranded.

reply to rexarolla

reply to rexarolla
I think this one on the help page should be clarified:

Outgoing mail server: Outgoing server (SMTP) requires authentication