Re: another approach in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r18034992 en Wed, 20 Aug 2008 23:50:29 EDT Wed, 20 Aug 2008 23:50:29 EDT Re: another approach http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18052155 old_dawg :
said by FiL See Profile :

least O'Malley ain't raisin' MY college tuition!

Go O'Malley!
Yeah, let's bring the murder rate UP Statewide not just in the cesspool city of Baltimore, let's have a new State Police Commissioner every month, let's tax tax tax.
:mad:
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"Our network engineers are aware of the problem..."]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18052155 Fri, 23 Mar 2007 16:44:01 EDT Re: another approach http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18038881 bentman78 : He doesn't have to, the colleges do that themselves. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18038881 Wed, 21 Mar 2007 11:56:01 EDT Re: another approach http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18036336 FiL : least O'Malley ain't raisin' MY college tuition!

Go O'Malley!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18036336 Tue, 20 Mar 2007 21:40:08 EDT Re: another approach http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18035771 moonpuppy :
said by old_dawg See Profile :

Bravo from yet another unwilling resident of Taxachusetts on the Chesapeake!. Funny how the "new" totally demo-ratic regime, er government can take the last surplus (when there was a Republican governor) and ! presto ! make it a stuctural deficit???. O'Malley?, Oh no!. :huh:
Where is the new Public Service Commission that was supposed to reign in price hikes made by Constellation Energy? Where is all these great things to lower my taxes? Another year the Democratic legislators have been bought out by the lobbyist.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18035771 Tue, 20 Mar 2007 19:55:24 EDT Re: another approach http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18035656 bi0tech : Validation yes, but putting the onus on the general public seems rather backward. Half of america still couldn't define broadband much less tell you if they have it.

Corporate reporting should form the basis possibly correlated with USGS data in an interactive mapping format. (think google maps, with a different color flag for each provider) Companies simply define areas they claim to service. Anyone that cannot get service in an area indicated as serviced can file a notice or have that territory removed from the coverage map. Of course some sort of fine system would also have to be in place to keep commercial entities from repeatedly claiming coverage in non-serviced areas.

The technology and geocoding data is readily available. There absolutely no need to keep up hiding public data.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18035656 Tue, 20 Mar 2007 19:30:16 EDT Re: another approach http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18034992 old_dawg : Bravo from yet another unwilling resident of Taxachusetts on the Chesapeake!. Funny how the "new" totally demo-ratic regime, er government can take the last surplus (when there was a Republican governor) and ! presto ! make it a stuctural deficit???. O'Malley?, Oh no!. :huh:
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"Our network engineers are aware of the problem..."]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18034992 Tue, 20 Mar 2007 17:19:26 EDT Re: another approach http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18034768 Michieru : 4) Forcing the industry to release the required data is the only way an effective and accurate audit of infrastructure can be compiled and assessed. Anything less would produce sham results.

Yet the companies would quickly falsify or mislead that information provided in that audit.

Its better done having a citizen simply put if he has "DSL, Cable, Fiber" and if so he is classified as broadband.

Now broadband classification is 256k but thats another issue and that would be forcing the FCC to raise the minimum of what broadband will be. Which in general should be 1.5/256 IMHO.

Another thing to know is that during the time of the census you are dealing with a government employee those who are paid shills are best brought up in the census as well but under another classification.

If the surrounding area has from each and every home around such cable or telco employee than his answer will validate.
A answer could be validated as false stating that he has broadband 8.0/768 yet the neighbor next door does not.

A simple show of your phone bill or ISP bill will show what package you have and that data could later be validated to see what that customer is capable of getting but simply does not due to price.

But to simply rely on the industry for an answer will provide only one side of the story. Data should be collected from both sides and compare that data to get a good estimate on what is covered and what is not.
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The only limits we have are the one's we set ourselves.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18034768 Tue, 20 Mar 2007 16:32:02 EDT Re: another approach http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18034664 tim_k :
said by N3OGH See Profile :

said by moonpuppy See Profile :

None of that would matter. You see, Maryland has a long tradition of taking lobby money and doing nothing for the citizens except raise their taxes and give themselves pay raises.

Maryland; If you can dream it, we can tax it.
HMM, sounds like PA!!!!
Ain't that the truth! :o
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RIP my baby Buttons]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18034664 Tue, 20 Mar 2007 16:12:57 EDT Re: another approach http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18033754 N3OGH : Point well taken....]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18033754 Tue, 20 Mar 2007 13:24:57 EDT Re: another approach http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18033184 anon : And

New York
California
Florida
Michigan
Texas
Montana
Nevada
Alabama
Georgia
Kentucky
Minnesota
Ohio
Colorado
Maine
North Carolina
South Carolina
Oklahoma
Kansas
Massachusetts
Tennessee
Arizona
New Mexico
Illinois

etc. etc. etc.

All the same. Politicians who think of themselves and government and how they can get more money out of everybody.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18033184 Tue, 20 Mar 2007 11:45:58 EDT Re: another approach http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18033131 N3OGH :
said by moonpuppy See Profile :

None of that would matter. You see, Maryland has a long tradition of taking lobby money and doing nothing for the citizens except raise their taxes and give themselves pay raises.

Maryland; If you can dream it, we can tax it.
HMM, sounds like PA!!!!
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FCC, PLEASE KILL THE MERGER BEFORE THE MERGER KILLS SATRAD!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18033131 Tue, 20 Mar 2007 11:28:09 EDT Re: another approach http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18032966 bi0tech : Anything less has and continues to produce sham results.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18032966 Tue, 20 Mar 2007 10:54:39 EDT Re: another approach http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18032899 ross : Sorry, but your idea won't float for the following reasons:

1) Data collected from citizens would probably be incomplete, and erroneous.

2) Telco and Cableco employees would be encouraged to provide data that could be misleading for obvious reasons.

3) Paying anyone would really encourage and REWARD Telco and Cableco employees to respond.

4) Forcing the industry to release the required data is the only way an effective and accurate audit of infrastructure can be compiled and assessed. Anything less would produce sham results.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18032899 Tue, 20 Mar 2007 10:37:28 EDT Re: another approach http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18032774 moonpuppy : None of that would matter. You see, Maryland has a long tradition of taking lobby money and doing nothing for the citizens except raise their taxes and give themselves pay raises.

Maryland; If you can dream it, we can tax it.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18032774 Tue, 20 Mar 2007 10:08:34 EDT another approach http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18032734 shoan : maryland could make a form or a website that the citizens of maryland could access and check boxes of what is offered to thier address. As incentive for this they could send a check for a few dollors for the citizens time. I know if I was told hey go to this state website and click yes or no to what was offered to my home be it dsl, cable, or wireless for a few dollors I would jump on it. Or they could add the question to the census that the state takes periodically. My town just recently held a special census just to see if they could get more state money since we are growing so fast. That way it is not forcing the providers to provide any information. But im sure they would lobby like hell to stop this simple way of mapping out where the broadband really is.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18032734 Tue, 20 Mar 2007 10:00:58 EDT