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Camelot One
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Makes perfect sense

If you think about it, why would they want to defend their users? Users aren't footing the bill for the service, nor are they paying for the legal fees when one of the companies comes after them.

And in this day and age, being right doesn't have anything to do with court cases. Few of them actually make it to a verdict, because they are so damn expensive to fight. So I can see YouTube not wanting to spend millions defending a users right to post a given video.
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said by Camelot One See Profile :

If you think about it, why would they want to defend their users?
Perhaps because if it weren't for its users YouTube would be worthless?

Hayduke

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It's the way they're enforcing the copyrights though. Some of the top "stars" on youtube use copyrighted music and things in their videos and they don't get pulled while other users, in some cases using the very same songs, have their videos yanked.
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said by Camelot One See Profile :

If you think about it, why would they want to defend their users? Users aren't footing the bill for the service.
Except that they are. Why do you think advertisers pay YouTube?


Camelot One
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said by vpoko See Profile :

said by Camelot One See Profile :

If you think about it, why would they want to defend their users? Users aren't footing the bill for the service.
Except that they are. Why do you think advertisers pay YouTube?
But advertisers are paying based on the number of hits, they could care less about which videos are or aren't staying up. And if YouTube had to pay legal fees for every video one of the big companies sued them over, the ad rates would have to go up, which would then drive away advertisers.

I'm not saying it is right, I'm saying it makes sense, given that the MPAA/RIAA can file a lawsuit for any reason they like, and YouTubes only option at that point is to pay them off, or pay the legal fees. Either way, they are out the $$, not the person who uploaded the, all be it, perfectly legal video.
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said by Camelot One See Profile :

But advertisers are paying based on the number of hits, they could care less about which videos are or aren't staying up. And if YouTube had to pay legal fees for every video one of the big companies sued them over, the ad rates would have to go up, which would then drive away advertisers.

I'm not saying it is right, I'm saying it makes sense, given that the MPAA/RIAA can file a lawsuit for any reason they like, and YouTubes only option at that point is to pay them off, or pay the legal fees. Either way, they are out the $$, not the person who uploaded the, all be it, perfectly legal video.
The problem for YouTube is that if they get less hits, they lose money and advertisers can demand cheaper rates which means even less money for YouTube.


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I personally see YouTube eventually being nothing but a shell of its former self. It is clear Fair Use is no longer a concept in the courts; the DMCA and those that misused its intentions destroyed it.

Why companies don't take advantage of people who spend time posting stuff and don't get paid anything is beyond me.

I'm sure TCH will be along to tell me I'm wrong, how I'm wrong, and cite all the wrong places proving it.

disc

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said by moonpuppy See Profile :

The problem for YouTube is that if they get less hits, they lose money and advertisers can demand cheaper rates which means even less money for YouTube.
Which in turn means that any revenue distribution by YouTube back to the content owners is diminished as well. The content owners know how their bread is buttered. They're just still trying to figure out the best channel to market for monetizing their assets. If YouTube is conflicting with their other channels, they'll make hard decisions, and having content yanked off of YouTube is a likely one.


ss4vegito7

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said by Camelot One See Profile :

said by vpoko See Profile :

said by Camelot One See Profile :

If you think about it, why would they want to defend their users? Users aren't footing the bill for the service.
Except that they are. Why do you think advertisers pay YouTube?
But advertisers are paying based on the number of hits, they could care less about which videos are or aren't staying up. And if YouTube had to pay legal fees for every video one of the big companies sued them over, the ad rates would have to go up, which would then drive away advertisers.

I'm not saying it is right, I'm saying it makes sense, given that the MPAA/RIAA can file a lawsuit for any reason they like, and YouTubes only option at that point is to pay them off, or pay the legal fees. Either way, they are out the $$, not the person who uploaded the, all be it, perfectly legal video.
your logic sucks

Thats all i have to say.
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Camelot One
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said by ss4vegito7 See Profile :

your logic sucks

Thats all i have to say.
Thank you for contributing to the conversation.


ss4vegito7

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yes the advertisers care about hits, but what gets the site hits??

POPULAR VIDEOS!

Much more then half of youtube's audience uses the site to watch copyrighted material. This in turn creates hits, which advertisers care deeply about.

It is in youtubes best interest to care about what users want.
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