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fiberguy
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Re: Oh Crap!!!

I have one thing to add... if Verizon's purchased technology from the corrupt and bankrupt MCI/Worldcom/MCI owner is so dang great, then why aren't they using it themselves?

It's amazing that Verizon's awesome patented technology worth 58 million that Vonage stole is causing Verizon harm by lost customers... I have to laugh.. they are loosing customers not because of the technology.. they are loosing customers because Vonage is selling a service at a more appealing rate.

Change the technology Vonage uses (c'mon Vonage.. change one part of it.. just one and avoid the patent) and continue to sell the service at the same price. Vonage will still bleed.
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Exactly TCH. I think what people are misunderstanding here is that Vonage has not yet lost this case by any means in the legal sense of the word AND they are still saying that they have not violated anyone patents with the way things now stand.

And so, their position today is they aren't changing a thing unless they absolutely have or are forced to.

Obviously, changing things around of this order of magnitude will carry with it risks for service disruptions.
And, there's always the potential for whatever they switch over to just not working as it should, or as good as what they have today.

But, if that's what it takes, then I suspect they do have workarounds in mind.

I hope they prevail and do well. Speaking as a customer, I think their service is great in every regard.

It's a real money saver over pots/ld of old and that's obviously what's winning them over so many customers.
Not Verizons tired old pots technology.
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If they had a work around, you'd see it by now.
Not necessarily. The workaround may mean paying money to license another companies(instead of Verizon's) patents. Or it may mean a more costly way to route calls to the off the internet termination points. They wouldn't implement the workaround, if it is more costly, unless they had no other choice.
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agreed... If they already had a workaround that actually worked don't you think they would have already implemented it?
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If they had a work around, you'd see it by now.


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said by compugeek See Profile :

I have had Vonage for 4 years. I don't know anything else anymore. I hope this gets tossed on appeal or I am screwed. I don't want to go back to a normal POTS line.

Geek
Even if Vonage loses the appeal and the injunction is enforced in 2 weeks, it gives Vonage enough time to switch their current technology to a non-infringing technology. At least they claimed they could do that, even if they lost the case. »www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=···fer=home
Vonage, based in Holmdel, New Jersey, said it is developing ``technical workarounds'' to avoid infringing Verizon's patents. The company expects to win a 120-day stay of today's order from Hilton or an appeals court, allowing it to pursue an appeal of the jury verdict, spokeswoman Brooke Schulz said in an interview. Hilton will hear Vonage's request April 6.

``We are confident Vonage customers will not experience service interruptions or other changes as a result of this litigation,'' Mike Snyder, Vonage's chief executive officer, said in a statement.
But if they do switch to something else, there will probably be disruptions while it is rolled out.
Whoo hooo, whoo hoo hoooo. (humms Vonage theme)... I think they stole the technology, just like they tried to steal $150 from me for an adapter I returned USING THEIR UPS LABELS.


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said by compugeek See Profile :

I have had Vonage for 4 years. I don't know anything else anymore. I hope this gets tossed on appeal or I am screwed. I don't want to go back to a normal POTS line.

Geek
Even if Vonage loses the appeal and the injunction is enforced in 2 weeks, it gives Vonage enough time to switch their current technology to a non-infringing technology. At least they claimed they could do that, even if they lost the case. »www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=···fer=home
Vonage, based in Holmdel, New Jersey, said it is developing ``technical workarounds'' to avoid infringing Verizon's patents. The company expects to win a 120-day stay of today's order from Hilton or an appeals court, allowing it to pursue an appeal of the jury verdict, spokeswoman Brooke Schulz said in an interview. Hilton will hear Vonage's request April 6.

``We are confident Vonage customers will not experience service interruptions or other changes as a result of this litigation,'' Mike Snyder, Vonage's chief executive officer, said in a statement.
But if they do switch to something else, there will probably be disruptions while it is rolled out.
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