 KiwiPremium join:2003-05-26 USA/MidWest kudos:1 Reviews:
·Comcast
| *Sigh* Can't stand the patent battles and some understand what I mean when it comes to technology. The legal system has been completely borked for so long, it's going to be hard to imagine a Democracy based on inovative concepts. The battle of patents have become the new rich corps playground.
As a long time user of Vonage, I was most annoyed by those chiming in on 911. The purpose had nothing to do with a POTS line, I guess that's what extravagant advertising does!
I would like to see any court leave customers stranded with the forced 911 enigma, having forced users to Annie up and pay for something that was generally not wanted; they will now have to protect the users who use it! A double edged sword may play a part in this.
Legal battles seem to be the norm anymore, once this Country was built on innovation, free thought and ingenuity...Now, it's a paper work shuffle and all the resources are shifting overseas; no surprise there! |
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 YippzPremium join:2005-05-04 Fort Walton Beach, FL | Why can't Vonage, which is a registered company in Canada, just move their servers from NJ to say, Ontario Canada?
Customer's wouldn't know or care where the servers were and they can connect to the PSTN from there?
Am I wrong or this is possible?? |
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 RadioDoc58ef2c0Premium,ExMod 2000-03 join:2000-05-11 | They'd have to connect to the PSTN in Canada then too. Not much good for local calling.
This is not the same as moving your webserver offshore... -- Toolmaster of La Grange. |
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 GooberPremium join:2000-12-17 Naperville, IL kudos:4 | reply to Kiwi said by Kiwi:Legal battles seem to be the norm anymore, once this Country was built on innovation, free thought and ingenuity...Now, it's a paper work shuffle and all the resources are shifting overseas; no surprise there! The Constitution (Article 1, section 8) authorized creation of patents. |
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 | reply to Kiwi This might seem silly but vonage has been advertisting themselves as a telephone company. With that statement comes certain expectations (911).
Vonage could have marketed themselves as a voip provider (no broadband telephone company/not a telephone company)
None of us generally care about the 911 feature unless we need it (too late?). Then again, it was a mandate on the telephone companies in the first place. My hunch is that they don't want to be in that business in the first place, but we, as a society (USA) determined it was beneficial.
911 is essentially a mandate and requirement of a POTS line, with very few exceptions.
Although I can't verify, I'd be willing to bet the 911 issue has survived the courts. It's been around a long time and the telephone companies generally fight anything that doesn't profit themselves (reasonably so).
As an aside, we all pay for crap we don't want, be it packaging, processing, overhead, etc...
There is quite a bit of paper shuffling overseas too, but that's a whole nother discussion.
Back to point, Vonage needed to figure out a better way to declare themselves something other than a traditional ld or local telecom provider. Providing the same services as either or both of the both with nothing essentially different didn't help them.
Vonage sorta brought this on themselves. There may be a reason, Citron's income is one motivation. The investors have their own motivations..and I'm not convinced guranteed profits are always the motive of venture capitalists.
I agree with you overall. The innovative services, such as many of the web applications, have happened. We might finally start to see the apps that the Jetson's had...
said by Kiwi:Can't stand the patent battles and some understand what I mean when it comes to technology. The legal system has been completely borked for so long, it's going to be hard to imagine a Democracy based on inovative concepts. The battle of patents have become the new rich corps playground. As a long time user of Vonage, I was most annoyed by those chiming in on 911. The purpose had nothing to do with a POTS line, I guess that's what extravagant advertising does! I would like to see any court leave customers stranded with the forced 911 enigma, having forced users to Annie up and pay for something that was generally not wanted; they will now have to protect the users who use it! A double edged sword may play a part in this. Legal battles seem to be the norm anymore, once this Country was built on innovation, free thought and ingenuity...Now, it's a paper work shuffle and all the resources are shifting overseas; no surprise there! |
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 KiwiPremium join:2003-05-26 USA/MidWest kudos:1 Reviews:
·Comcast
| VoIP never tauted claim to fame to anything other than providing a service for those with broadband access; an existing ISP is required.
You should review what most users went through when the ads kicked in and the VoIP illiterate types signed up demanding a 911 service, nOObs! No, nobody who knew anything wanted a darn thing to do with 911 & VoIP. The customer remark for courts and 911 reflected that now it's in place the court will have to protect those using VoIP -Because of it.
The big picture has been largely glossed over, Vonage is not the only service utilizing claimed patents. As for ANY third party company [Non old world Bell] they use the copper too.
Most people and particularly non users of VoIP will not understand. Vonage would have been far wiser to have reduced advertising and realized a niche...Would have saved a few million to boot.
This reminds me of the witch hunt some others have endorsed, using the legal system; not surprising to see anything related to technology take a hit from a legal system who have proved incapable of understanding what they rule on.
Vonage does have a rather poor track record for financial stability, but that's aside the point.
A long time ago a similar technology was used with dialup, perhaps anybody using anything digital should sign over their check right now to the very few starters.....
I would presume that might annoy the likes of rootkited *IAA et al (I'm still amazed that the ever so diligent legal system has not challenged basic security breaches and strong arm tactics to garner money from small children and the elderly -Who don't even own a PC). |
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