axus
join:2001-06-18
Washington, DC Reviews:
 ·Verizon Online DSL
| Does this affect other telephony companies? I don't really understand the technical side of this case... don't cell phone companies hook up to the PSTN? Not to mention the other regular phone companies. Is it something specific that Vonage is doing, or is it VOIP specific? Does it affect Skype? I use Skype because I rarely get calls at home, and its much cheaper than VOIP or POTS. Why does it seem that everything new is ruined by patents held by people who aren't using them? |
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| There patents make NO SENSE. How do you patent Voicemail, everyone uses Voicemail. That's like trying to patent the wheel. |
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priller
join:2000-10-20
Gainesville, VA | »pr.vonage.com/releasedetail.cfm?···D=235198
"Vonage relied on open-standard, off-the-shelf technology when developing its service."
This is what I've been wondering. AFAIK, Vonage does not build the hardware or write the software it operates on. There may be some custom development. But the patents Verizon quotes can apply to ANY VoIP hardware vendor, software vendor or service operator. I can't see this decision holding up on appeal. |
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 LokerPremium
join:2004-07-11
Fargo, ND | reply to axus
said by axus:I don't really understand the technical side of this case... don't cell phone companies hook up to the PSTN? Not to mention the other regular phone companies. Is it something specific that Vonage is doing, or is it VOIP specific? Does it affect Skype? I use Skype because I rarely get calls at home, and its much cheaper than VOIP or POTS. Why does it seem that everything new is ruined by patents held by people who aren't using them? when Verizon patented it a long time ago they weren't...but in the last couple of years they have been running VoiceWing (their VoIP solution...)
said by Trinijoy:There patents make NO SENSE. How do you patent Voicemail, everyone uses Voicemail. That's like trying to patent the wheel. it is note the idea of voicemail itself it is how they do the voicemail in the background....basically there may be 500 different ways to do voicemail but Verizon has patented how to do it 1 way....there are still plenty of other ways to do voice mail without fear of suit from verizon.....
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 cdruGo ColtsPremium,MVM
join:2003-05-14
Fort Wayne, IN
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As I understand it, it's not the VoIP technology per se that Vonage violated, it's the hooking up of that VoIP technology to a PSTN that violates one of the 3 main patents. You could conceivably have two Vonage customers unaffected by the ruling if all they did was talk to each other directly (not through the PSTN).
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Cell carriers have deals to connect to POTS and other Cell Carriers. Roaming costs are pretty expensive because of those termination costs. Most cells are owned by the big boys anyway. |
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said by cdru:As I understand it, it's not the VoIP technology per se that Vonage violated, it's the hooking up of that VoIP technology to a PSTN that violates one of the 3 main patents. You could conceivably have two Vonage customers unaffected by the ruling if all they did was talk to each other directly (not through the PSTN). If the injunction is granted, Vonage will only be able to talk to Vonage. That was noted in the court ruling a few weeks ago. |
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Did Verizon INVENT voicemail???  |
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cdruGo ColtsPremium,MVM
join:2003-05-14
Fort Wayne, IN
kudos:5 Reviews:
·Frontier FiOS
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said by supergirl:If the injunction is granted, Vonage will only be able to talk to Vonage. That was noted in the court ruling a few weeks ago. In theory, they should actually be able to talk to other VoIP providers as well...as long as they don't go across the PSTN.
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