Re: pretty soon in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r18056194 en Wed, 02 Dec 2009 21:08:59 EDT Wed, 02 Dec 2009 21:08:59 EDT Re: pretty soon http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18060543 battleop : You will see fiber to the desk long before you see fiber though out the home. The company I work for does a lot of wiring for very large company that is very tech driven but not in the tech industry. The ONLY thing they use fiber for is to interconnect switches through out their campus and data center.

Most of the places that I see fiber to the desktop are in warehouses and places like Lowes and Home Depot where you have PCs that are too far for ethernet.

If anything you will see wide spread use of Cat6 before you have fiber through out the home. Compared to copper fiber is expensive and terminating fiber is even more expensive. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18060543 Sun, 25 Mar 2007 11:25:26 EDT Re: pretty soon http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18059664 Jerkface : you took the words out of my mouth, fiberguy. If i had the time to type more today, thats what i would have written]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18059664 Sun, 25 Mar 2007 03:26:20 EDT Re: pretty soon http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18059181 BOGBS : I'm pretty sure that same thing was said about various networking technologies like coax networking vs cat5, etc less than 20 years ago... Some people just think of the immediate future, and not what might be down the road just a little further...

If your statement were true, sufficient access would still be a 9600 baud modem. This comment is not meant to be a dig, just something to think about..]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18059181 Sun, 25 Mar 2007 00:11:02 EDT Re: pretty soon http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18059120 Corehhi : If your poor that stuff doesn't apply. There are a lot of people who don't have checking accounts. Think about it.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18059120 Sat, 24 Mar 2007 23:55:57 EDT Re: pretty soon http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18059079 Corehhi : I don't own a cellphone and have never used one. I have no reason to be that in touch with anyone, if they want me , they have to find me.

BTW When I was single cellphone weighed 4 lbs. LOL. If I was dating I would have a cell phone.

Many people have no use for the internet. 10% of the people in the US are probably retarded anyways. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18059079 Sat, 24 Mar 2007 23:45:11 EDT Re: pretty soon http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18059028 bandit8623 : the problem with this is wireless is open and can be cracked (sniffed). no offense but i dont want some idiot to turn my internet stove on when im not home :P. Me personally would want internal wiring. Also i would want fiber for the lowest latency posible. if you are going to wire your house for broadband why not spend the extra money for fiber. (your house cost over 100 k already)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18059028 Sat, 24 Mar 2007 23:32:38 EDT Re: pretty soon http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18058929 Middieman : That'd be part of my point if I felt like making one.

While I would need to make an educated guess about other people's habits, I am aware that I'm capable of spending a great deal of time doing all kinds of stuff on the internet. And I would have to say that there are times that there doesn't seem to be much more that I need either. (Cause I like doing what I do with the internet in my spare time.)

So what can be missing is the question? Oh the internet is a remarkable communications tool, but it doesn't replace people. (Or at least it shouldn't.)

-=[Middie]=-
--
All your base are belong to DSL Reports!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18058929 Sat, 24 Mar 2007 23:09:02 EDT Re: pretty soon http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18058858 fiberguy : "Fiber in the home is not near ready for the average home, heck you don't even see it in majority of multimillion dollar homes now."

Yea yea.. bla bla.. the same thing was said about broadband in general. in 1998 when DSL really started to become popular at $89.99 a month for 256 maxing out at 1.5, no one thought that it was be up to 6mb in a short time either. No one thought cable would be pushing 16 meg / 2meg... BB has only been around for about 8 years in reality and look at where we are.. so please, tell me.. how can you be so sure that it will be 50 years..?

..and no one really "needs" the internet. If they did, it would be classified as a utility.
--
"Complaining is the least path of resistance for the self-reitchous and lazy ... those who also never take the time to point out a good fortune when the opportunity presents itself. It says a lot about one's moral character." - Unknown]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18058858 Sat, 24 Mar 2007 22:56:22 EDT Re: pretty soon http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18058699 Authority :
said by Middieman See Profile :

Maybe the people without the internet are the smart ones.
Maybe huh? Occasionally I think my BlackBerry is all I really need, and with faster wireless coming that might be true.
--
"Canada" = economically, militarily, politically, and culturally irrelevant.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18058699 Sat, 24 Mar 2007 22:27:02 EDT Re: pretty soon http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18058685 battleop : Why in gods name would you need fiber though out a house? You can get Gigabit over copper.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18058685 Sat, 24 Mar 2007 22:24:42 EDT Re: pretty soon http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18057607 Topmounter : I don't even own a microwave.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18057607 Sat, 24 Mar 2007 18:44:25 EDT Re: pretty soon http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18057229 CPM : Microwaves? Oh,Great. Does, that mean my mircowave might see the blue screen of death.:-)
--
»www.forbroadwaytickets.com - »www.Broadwayman.com]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18057229 Sat, 24 Mar 2007 17:05:30 EDT Re: pretty soon http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18057220 orph4824 : I live in a relatively small town and took some friends to the movie theater last year, I'm 38 and they are new to the net when we got there they started to pull out money and stand in line, I walked upto the quick ticket machine swiped my cc and out popped 3 tickets of which I had already paid for online, bypassed the line and went straight on in after I gave them thiers should've seen the looks on thier faces it was a kodak momment, needless to say they now order the tickets online after a quick how-to. :)
--
Life's 3 rules: 1. Stuff happens 2. Stuff happens on a regular basis 3. Better get used to the first two... (not the actual saying but you get the drift)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18057220 Sat, 24 Mar 2007 17:04:10 EDT Re: pretty soon http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18056820 PDXPLT :
quote:
Some of us can’t go more than a few hours without access to the Internet before we feel like we’ve become completely out-of-touch with our worlds.


'got that right. And I'm a middle-aged ol' fart. The younger you are, the more you feel that way.

That 30% will go down as it dies off; I'm sure the vast majority are elderly. I still remember the time we had to buy an airline ticket for my mother-in-law and subsquently take her to the airport. It was impossible to explain the concept of "electronic ticket" to her, and we had to get a paper one: no online check-in, no using the express check-in machines in the terminal; it took forever.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18056820 Sat, 24 Mar 2007 15:27:48 EDT Re: pretty soon http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18056631 lkviewguy : I see you share the same far-fetched and unreal vision that Bill Gates seem to have with the "Digital Home" or whatever he calls it. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18056631 Sat, 24 Mar 2007 14:38:09 EDT Re: pretty soon http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18056355 nanoflower : I think that's the wrong approach. The only thing that really makes sense is to go wireless. Now today it would be very hard to make it work, but I wouldn't be surprised in 15-20 years if the various home appliance companies had gotten together and come up with a common approach to netowrking their systems together so that you put one device in your home to actually be wired (probably a combination NAT/router) that communicates with your various appliances. After all I'm not sure why you need to deliver the ultra high speeds that fiber could deliver to your refridgerator.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18056355 Sat, 24 Mar 2007 13:42:25 EDT Re: pretty soon http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18056273 joako :
said by Jerkface See Profile :

pretty soon the internet will be connected to every waking part of our lives in ways we can never imagine: Television, Microwaves, EVERYTHING will be connected to the internet. Think about this: in a couple years, when people are talking about building a house, they'll be running power and fiber optic cabling throughout the entire house to connect everything imaginable! Its not too far away guys :)

Oh, and to get to the 30% that have no use for the internet: Technology is the future, plain and simple. If you don't catch the wave, you'll miss it :P
Why not Ethernet? Think about it. Why does your microwave need fiber? Ethernet IMO is the next universal bus. Sort of how like CANbus is a slow bus, why not replace that with off the shelf Ethernet??
--
Am Heimcomputer sitz' ich hier, und programmier' die Zukunft mir]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18056273 Sat, 24 Mar 2007 13:26:42 EDT Re: pretty soon http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18056210 Middieman : Care to elaborate on your eloquent observation?

-=[Middie]=-
--
All your base are belong to DSL Reports!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18056210 Sat, 24 Mar 2007 13:13:58 EDT Re: pretty soon http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18056194 Xizer : "Maybe the people without the internet are the smart ones."

All I have to say to that is that that is the stupidest statement I've heard in the past few days.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18056194 Sat, 24 Mar 2007 13:10:39 EDT Re: pretty soon http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18056056 GlennAllen : Ahhhh... a day without the Internet is like a day at the beach: far from the madding crowd.

Today is Shutdown Day (which, clearly, I haven't, but I just got FiOS... so screw that!).

It'll be a long, long time before Cat6 isn't good enough for internal cabling (and who will ever need more than 640K of memory in their 'personal computer'?).

I can wait for the future... like I have a choice?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18056056 Sat, 24 Mar 2007 12:43:25 EDT Re: pretty soon http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18056028 Middieman : It is possible to live without the internet.

Myself I pay bills on-line and buy lots of things that I used to go to the store for.

But I could still mail checks just fine to pay the bills. And going out shopping without really needing anything isn't quite the same.

Maybe the people without the internet are the smart ones.

-=[Middie]=-
--
All your base are belong to DSL Reports!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18056028 Sat, 24 Mar 2007 12:37:06 EDT Re: pretty soon http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18056013 markopoleo :
said by Jerkface See Profile :

pretty soon the internet will be connected to every waking part of our lives in ways we can never imagine: Television, Microwaves, EVERYTHING will be connected to the internet. Think about this: in a couple years, when people are talking about building a house, they'll be running power and fiber optic cabling throughout the entire house to connect everything imaginable! Its not too far away guys :)

Oh, and to get to the 30% that have no use for the internet: Technology is the future, plain and simple. If you don't catch the wave, you'll miss it :P
You are far from reality, not pretty "soon", more like 22-50 years from now. You think every home is just going to up and get connected soon? dream on :P

Fiber in the home is not near ready for the average home, heck you don't even see it in majority of multimillion dollar homes now. Granted prices are going down, but you need it to equal the cost or wiring today a typical house to see it start to become popular. Once you see it hitting the $100k price range houses is when to get excited.

But onto the same point, no applications exist today that would even use that bandwidth that a normal cat5 wire can't handle so far.

I don't find it hard to believe %30 don't have internet, lots of people don't NEED it.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18056013 Sat, 24 Mar 2007 12:33:52 EDT pretty soon http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18055884 Jerkface : pretty soon the internet will be connected to every waking part of our lives in ways we can never imagine: Television, Microwaves, EVERYTHING will be connected to the internet. Think about this: in a couple years, when people are talking about building a house, they'll be running power and fiber optic cabling throughout the entire house to connect everything imaginable! Its not too far away guys :)

Oh, and to get to the 30% that have no use for the internet: Technology is the future, plain and simple. If you don't catch the wave, you'll miss it :P]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18055884 Sat, 24 Mar 2007 12:06:31 EDT