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Warez_Zealot
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reply to russotto

Re: Really they are criminals

said by russotto:

It's a bit hard to lodge a complaint over someone sabotaging an illegal act. It's like calling the cops over having your cocaine stolen.
So you are saying ISP have no case to say that these companies are doing the equivalent of a DDOS to their available bandwidth? I hope their providers know what they are using the inet connection for.

They are essentially wasting ISP's resources on lame data packets.
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said by Warez_Zealot:

They are essentially wasting ISP's resources on lame data packets.
It's not the ISP's responsibility to judge what is or isn't a lame data packet. Everyone here is a proponent of network neutrality. You can't have it both ways where the ISP does care what the bandwidth is being used for while at the same time not caring how it gets used.
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Except many people who are for network neutrality are also against SPAM. Spamming is currently a grey area that I'm sure 99% of receivers would classify as lame data packets. Spamming is illegal in some nations (UK) and in others SPAM is extremely undesirable. So, just like the law has exceptions, there may need to be exceptions to network neutrality, depending on what scope network neutrality is applied at. In this case, I think that an ISP could claim that Media Defender is a Denial Of Service attack, but that probably wouldn't be a good idea for an ISP, considering the big bucks paying for Media Defender's services.

Hrm. So, in that respect, maybe the R*AA/M*AA are just as bad as the companies that back spammers, because they both are funding undesirable activity.


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