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Re: Peer Guardian said by MrWeasel :
Just use Peer Guardian or other similar IP block lists...Problem solved!
Because you KNOW that adsl-xxx-xx-xx-xxx.ny.someisp.net COULD NOT POSSIBLY be a bad guy, right? (hint: you don't know).
An IP blacklist requires you to know *everything* about *all* your potential enemies to be effective (a hopeless requirement), while an enemy doesn't have to know much about you at all.
Especially since, as long as your enemies have access to the same providers that everyone else in the world uses, you don't ever have any hope to completely hide from them. Unless you blacklist the whole internet.
Blacklists have always been a terrible idea for most kinds of security, but people still buy into the idea that it makes them safe for some odd reason... | |
| No, but some protection is always better than no protection. Sure, they can use new, unknown IP addresses, but all their known ones are blocked, so you are a fool if you don't at least block KNOWN ones. I use peer guardian, of course. But when I'm using torrents, it's only VERY rarely do I ever see a mediadefender.org. And the reason for that is that is that I use private torrent sites, and as soon as ANY IP from the 'known ranges' is found by the tracker, the client is automatically kicked and banned. So some protection is better than no protection. It's like sex, the only way to be SURE you don't catch a STD, is to not have sex, but that's not realistic, so always use a condom.
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| said by karlmarx:No, but some protection is always better than no protection. Depends on how you define "better". You can block a significant portion of the internet and still be very open to attack. It is only that you don't know whether all those other millions of IPs you've allowed are trustworthy or not, and trust them by default anyway. That's still pretty weak security.
said by karlmarx:Sure, they can use new, unknown IP addresses, The big problem.
said by karlmarx:so you are a fool if you don't at least block KNOWN ones. You'd be a fool to think that would be be good enough for any considerable level of security.
said by karlmarx:I use peer guardian, of course. But when I'm using torrents, it's only VERY rarely do I ever see a mediadefender.org. And the reason for that is that is that I use private torrent sites, and as soon as ANY IP from the 'known ranges' is found by the tracker, the client is automatically kicked and banned. Hmm. I guess they will just have to try another line, or a proxy... (remember, you are basing your security on this).
said by karlmarx:So some protection is better than no protection. But not significantly...
said by karlmarx:It's like sex, the only way to be SURE you don't catch a STD, is to not have sex, but that's not realistic, so always use a condom. I'd imagine that a condom is more effective than an IP blacklist at keeping you safe (just an opinion, though). | |
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