BosstonesOwn
join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA
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| Amazing !
I sort of remember people saying Verizon stopped "developing" new things for FIOS because the Investors were scared.
Guess they were wrong eh.
Verizon is on the right track.
They can keep pushing the envelope like this, and soon cable maybe hurting.
Hmm Guess Brian Roberts BMW , May be passed by Ivan's Bentley soon 
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Cabal
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join:2007-01-21
Boston, MA | It seems it's Alcatel-Lucent that's actually pushing the envelope and Verizon is just buying their products, no?
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JSRoman
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join:2005-03-10
Callahan, FL
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said by BosstonesOwn  :I sort of remember people saying Verizon stopped "developing" new things for FIOS because the Investors were scared. Guess they were wrong eh. Verizon is on the right track. They can keep pushing the envelope like this, and soon cable maybe hurting. Hmm Guess Brian Roberts BMW , May be passed by Ivan's Bentley soon By soon you must mean sometime in 2015 or so when Comcast has snatched up all of Verizon and Att's local phone subs.
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BosstonesOwn
join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA
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said by Cabal :It seems it's Alcatel-Lucent that's actually pushing the envelope and Verizon is just buying their products, no? Hence the "developing" portion ?
Verizon is coming gunning. And i for one welcome our new fiber running , hdtv broadcasting overlords 
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tschmidt
Premium,MVM
join:2000-11-12
Milford, NH
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| reply to BosstonesOwn
GPON is the next generation ITU standard, so Verizon did not develop anything.
To their credit they have be the most aggressive Telco deploying FTTP. 622Mbps vs 2.5Gbps downstream rate and elimination of ATM make GPON very attractive. So does increase split ratio 1:32 to 1:64 along with a host of other nifty improvement makes upgrade to GPON a no brainer.
Verizon is able to utilize GPON to reduce cost, due to increased split ratio and longer distances or deliver faster speed when IPTV becomes popular.
/Tom |
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RadioDoc
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Premium,ExMod 2000-03
join:2000-05-11
·AT&T Midwest
| reply to Cabal
Show me one thing any provider "developed" after the breakup of Mama Bell.
Comcast certainly hasn't "developed" anything but the ability to operate without a conscience. At least Verizon is deploying the technology that's available now, not in some far off "some day".
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fiberguy
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join:2005-05-20
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said by tschmidt :To their credit they have be the most aggressive Telco deploying FTTP. You're right.. not the first, and STILL not the best speed offering over fiber either.. but the most aggressive..
However, I wouldn't give them even credit for being aggressive.. I DO give them credit for RESPONDING well to being wiped out. They aren't innovating, they made the right choice. Other phone companies have been rolling out fiber for as long as 8 years now. When it comes to choice, I don't care if they are large medium or small.. it's all relative. For this, I give VZ a fail. I also give SBC a fail as well, however, that's more because the CEO was too busy finding something that 'works' to get them by before he retires so he can take the large pay out he's getting. When W. is gone from SBC, you will see fiber in the works.. that's my prediction.
But Verizon.. I give them credit for making the RIGHT decision to cable in taking their customers right out from under them hand over fist. If anyone has been proactive, it's been cable.. period. Cable isn't reacting to phone, rather phone is reacting to cable. Think of this as a poker game. Cable made a bet, cable matched, and is raising, and now phone is calling the bet. It's coming to a point where the cards will get laid down.. only neither is going to be the "winner".. well, actually, the spectators in this game, the customers, WILL end up winning.. at least those that are part of the audience.. the larger cities. (for now at least)
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fiberguy
My views are my own.
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join:2005-05-20
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Oh, give us a break!
This 'technology' they are deploying was "someday" for them too.. just it was years ago.. aka, others have been deploying fiber for almost a decade today. Pull off your blinders and pay attention to the facts. The technology has BEEN available.. they are just NOW deploying it.
Nice spin, as usual. EVERYTHING needs to be 'developed'... 2.0 just came out.. now 3.0 is in the lab and about ready for the street. If you're going to make an argument or a point, make it valid and reasonable.
You know that conscience comcast doesn't have? It's the same one Verizon is missing too... and SBC.. and qwest.. and the banks.. and the government.. and (insert organization here)
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DaBavarian
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join:2006-02-22
Saginaw, MI | reply to JSRoman
The war isn't over the home phone subs... the new war is in purely wireless and data (internet). I truely think the baby bells can care less about res telco subs as much as the push and energy has been given to wireless and data. |
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batterup
I Can Not Tell A Lie.
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join:2003-02-06
Netcong, NJ
clubs:
·Verizon Online DSL
| reply to fiberguy
said by fiberguy :Oh, give us a break! This 'technology' they are deploying was "someday" for them too.. just it was years ago.. aka, others have been deploying fiber for almost a decade today. Pull off your blinders and pay attention to the facts. The technology has BEEN available.. they are just NOW deploying it. The Bell System first deployed fiber in Chicago in 1977. If the System were permitted to keep and develop the computer and operating system they invented the US of A would be light years ahead of the world.
Ma Bell is dead and yet the people bitch. |
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RadioDoc
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1 edit | reply to fiberguy
I'll remind you that those telephone companies you hate so much have been deploying fiber since before cable companies figured out how to get more than 36 channels down coax.
The evil Ma Bell-period AT&T actually developed much of what is still used in telephony (and lots of video tech too). Your beloved Comcast hasn't developed squat.
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RideRed
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join:2005-06-18
USA | reply to JSRoman
...and DBS, Verizon and AT&T have snatched up all of Comcast's video subs... |
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RideRed
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join:2005-06-18
USA
4 edits | reply to fiberguy
As you mention in other posts, PRICE is king. Verizon has nothing to worry about so long as cable continues their 3x inflation yearly increases and cable telephony has nothing to worry about so long as telcos charge $7.50 for Caller ID and $1.50 to keep you name out of the phonebook.
Cable will continue to react to telco competition by ramping up speeds where they see FiOS. Telcos will continue to react to cable competition by deploying video services and trying to sue VOIP providers like Vonage out of existence.
Personally I think I'll see pigs fly before I see TWC deploy DOCSIS 3 in my 'hood. They have no worries though as FiOS in my neighborhood sucks serious ass. |
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RideRed
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1 edit | reply to RadioDoc
Yay, another thread derailing fanboy pissing contest.  |
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RadioDoc
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| said by RideRed :Yay, another thread derailing fanboy pissing contest. Cute.
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madrhino
join:2004-07-03
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said by RideRed :Yay, another thread derailing fanboy pissing contest. Every single thread about verizon and Comcast has to be dragged into the gutter every single time.
When will people realize it's not "us and Comcast" against "them and verizon"?
They are corporations.It is their job to screw us.It is why they exist.
As long as the consumers takes sides with the corporations the corporations will win.
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fiberguy
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join:2005-05-20 | reply to batterup
Re: Amazing !
Batter up, "Ma Bell is dead and yet the people bitch."...
Who exactly is bitching? I think you will see MANY more people celebrating the break ups, and calling foul that it's being put back together again. |
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batterup
I Can Not Tell A Lie.
Premium
join:2003-02-06
Netcong, NJ
clubs:
·Verizon Online DSL
| reply to fiberguy
Re: Amazing !
said by fiberguy :Who exactly is bitching? Don't you read the posts? 90% bitching.
This is the first thread that has the bitchers dumb struck. Sweet. |
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