rotty97
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| Comodo acquires BOClean FROM:
»forums.comodo.com/index.php?topi···opicseen
Today Comodo Acquired BOClean (www.nsclean.com) . One of the oldest and most respected Anti Trojan companies around.
BOClean has a very effective engine and more importantly top notch expertise and people in the field. We are happy to announce that Kevin will be joining forces with Comodo and work with us to create world's best Anti malware/virus/trojan/spyware/rootkit product around for FREE!
Comodo is totally committed to create a world leading Anti-Malware product for FREE! We have now assembled a world class team of people who will take us to next level. So expect some good stuff from us.
thanks
Melih
PS: We will now make BOClean a free product and continue to deliver top notch support. | |
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| Re: Comodo acquires BOClean lol nice! Comodo really need's to improve it's antivirus rates and the performance!Comodo's antivirus had missed a worm on my machine! but now that they had acquired BoClean they will improve it's antivirus signatures for sure! and yet it will be free for everybody  | |
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join:2005-08-14
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| Another independent bites the dust! However as it's Comodo doing the taking over, whose firewall has such a good reputation, I'm hoping the efficiency of the Boclean program won't be compromised. Good luck to the McAleaveys: I hope they got a great price. | |
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danny9
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| Re: Comodo acquires BOClean said by tempnexus  :Aww fck! Yeap there goes another one. I predict about 7 months to 1 year of Boclean quality and then bleh...failings due to the pressure of the bigger company and eventual ineffective bloat ware.  I am sad very very very sad. Me too! It does seem of late that good products seem to go downhill after being bought out.
Hopefully this won't happen with BOClean but only time will tell.
The level of trust I did have in this product, after all these years, has just gone down considerably.
At least Kevin and Nancy will get a much deserved rest.
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| said by tempnexus :Aww fck! Yeap there goes another one. I predict about 7 months to 1 year of Boclean quality and then bleh...failings due to the pressure of the bigger company and eventual ineffective bloat ware. I am sad very very very sad. Me too. I do hope the McAleaveys got a great price. But I have a very bad feeling about this. I don't like Comodo at all and I think this is a sad day for us users....but I wish Kevin and Nancy the best and we do what we have to do ...all of us.
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| said by tempnexus :Aww fck! Yeap there goes another one. I predict about 7 months to 1 year of Boclean quality and then bleh...failings due to the pressure of the bigger company and eventual ineffective bloat ware. I am sad very very very sad. It could be worse, at least they didn't sell out to Symantec.
If it was destined to happen, I would have prefered a union between Eset and NSclean. | |
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| Re: Comodo acquires BOClean said by Mowergun :If it was destined to happen, I would have prefered a union between Eset and NSclean. Yeah, wouldn't that have been a fine union!
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bellgamin
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Ewa Beach, HI | At least they didn't sell out to Microsoft. Microsoft bought RAV & converted it to M$-mediocrity. I'm sure they would have done the same to BOC. | |
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Buddel
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| said by tempnexus :Aww fck! I couldn't have said it better. | |
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GercekSeytan
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| said by rotty97 :FROM: » forums.comodo.com/index.php?topi···opicseenToday Comodo Acquired BOClean (www.nsclean.com) . One of the oldest and most respected Anti Trojan companies around. BOClean has a very effective engine and more importantly top notch expertise and people in the field. We are happy to announce that Kevin will be joining forces with Comodo and work with us to create world's best Anti malware/virus/trojan/spyware/rootkit product around for FREE! Comodo is totally committed to create a world leading Anti-Malware product for FREE! We have now assembled a world class team of people who will take us to next level. So expect some good stuff from us. thanks Melih PS: We will now make BOClean a free product and continue to deliver top notch support. This horrible. Er, when will I be able to download my free copy? 
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| If BOClean becomes free, then I wonder what happens to the immunity from intimidation by bad guys that the makers of BOClean have as a consequence of the NY court ruling. My understanding is that since they have not in the past made available a free evaluation version, they have a right to detect whatever they want on behalf of their subscribers. Like a private club.
I was afraid this would happen some day. I can't blame Kevin and Nancy, they no doubt could use a rest, but I fear for the future of BOClean.
Will support for Win 9x be continued? Will the program remain light on resources? Will they stay ahead of the curve of bad stuff like they have in the past?
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| Re: Comodo acquires BOClean said by Mowergun :If BOClean becomes free, then I wonder what happens to the immunity from intimidation by bad guys that the makers of BOClean have as a consequence of the NY court ruling. My understanding is that since they have not in the past made available a free evaluation version, they have a right to detect whatever they want on behalf of their subscribers. Like a private club. That's an excellent point! And another reason I feel bad about this.
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| said by Mowergun :If BOClean becomes free, then I wonder what happens to the immunity from intimidation by bad guys that the makers of BOClean have as a consequence of the NY court ruling. My understanding is that since they have not in the past made available a free evaluation version, they have a right to detect whatever they want on behalf of their subscribers. Like a private club... THAT is the primary question for me as well. As ludicrous as the need for such protection seems, it is pure buffoonery to throw it away and open yourself to lawsuits from malware writers, or to reducing the effective protections of the program due to threats of legal action from black-hats.
I paid for BOClean, and I'm a more than a little disturbed that it will be given away for free. "FREE" usually results in NO OBLIGATION to maintain and improve the product, and inevitably leads to it becoming either ineffectual, discontinued, or both. | |
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1 edit | said by Mowergun :If BOClean becomes free, then I wonder what happens to the immunity from intimidation by bad guys that the makers of BOClean have as a consequence of the NY court ruling. My understanding is that since they have not in the past made available a free evaluation version, they have a right to detect whatever they want on behalf of their subscribers. For those interested, I asked Melih this question in the Comodo forums. He basically said that nothing will change and he welcomes any malware providers to try and sue them.
See his reply #45 in this thread:
»forums.comodo.com/index.php/topi···.45.html | |
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| Re: Comodo acquires BOClean said by JimmyD : For those interested, I asked Melih this question in the Comodo forums. He basically said that nothing will change and he welcomes any malware providers to try and sue them.
See his reply #45 in this thread:
»forums.comodo.com/index.php/topi···.45.html
Did he understand the question? From his answer it appears not. That was a childish boast he gave, not a reasoned answer that his attorneys would approve or that has merit. I want to hear what his legal counsel has to say about this. Or Melih can answer the question in a SUBSTANTIVE MANNER instead of letting his ego talk for him. In contrast, recall reading some of Alex Eckelberry's reasoned blogs and posts here regarding the squeezing put on him a couple of years ago, how his attorneys advised him in one direction and he didn't want that, and the difficult moral decisions he had to make?
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Cudni
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Someshire | I can't help thinking these are good news for both the companies involved and all their present and future customers.
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danny9
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| Re: Comodo acquires BOClean said by Cudni :I can't help thinking these are good news for both the companies involved and all their present and future customers. Cudni Cudni, I hope you are right but I can't share your enthusiasm at this point.
I can't see the high quality of standards held by BOClean being maintained by Comodo.
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Bubba17
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| Re: Comodo acquires BOClean said by danny9 :I can't see the high quality of standards held by BOClean being maintained by Comodo. I agree. It's not going to happen.
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fphall
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Bristol, CT | Re: Comodo acquires BOClean I would feel a lot better if Sunbelt had acquired them instead of Comodo. | |
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| said by Cudni :I can't help thinking these are good news for both the companies involved and all their present and future customers. Cudni I have to agree with you and think Nancy and Kevin put a lot of thought into this before selling their baby! Like others have said, only time will tell.
Everyone seems to be missing the fact that Kevins on board at Comodo now and that can't be a bad thing for several reasons I can think of, but I'm not going to speculate on what changes will come about.
I'm sure sooner or later Nancy will drop by and give us a little insight into the whats and whys, but I'm sure she couldn't do it until the official announcement was made at Comodo.
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| Re: Comodo acquires BOClean said by Moody : Everyone seems to be missing the fact that Kevins on board at Comodo now and that can't be a bad thing for several reasons I can think of, but I'm not going to speculate on what changes will come about.
I sure hope you are right, Gary, but nonetheless I'm suspicious. This is a typical part of any acquisition or "merger", namely that the same fine management team will remain on board...blah, blah, blah. It usually doesn't mean a hill of beans, except perhaps that Comodo made it a condition, for appearances sake, that Kevin and/or Nancy stay for a prescribed period. No, I fear that things will never be the same again. --
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| This is very sad to hear for me. Over the years I have changed AV,AT, and firewalls but Boclean has remained the one consistent thing that always went on my computers. I fear that all the updates and quick responses to threats will soon die out also. I cant wait for the popup when updating that says I need to upgrade to version 4.23 with its sparkling new gui. Good luck to Kev and Nancy and we'll see where Boclean is in 3 to 6 months. | |
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I hate to see a product shift from free to paid, or paid to free, as the consequences are not usually desirable.
All the best to Kevin and Nancy. Hope the reward is as strong, as the product and support have been over the many years we've used it. | |
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dannyboy 950
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| Re: Comodo acquires BOClean said by dannyboy 950 :Well I see the post in their forums but I found no Official Press release yet. So I guess it is not public yet. If you go to »www.nsclean.com/index.html and click on the link to purchase BoClean this is what you get:
"This is a courtesy message for Privacy Software Corporation customers
Comodo has acquired Privacy Software Corporation. All existing Privacy Software Corporation customers will continue to be protected by Privacy Software Corporation products and will receive automatic software updates as usual.
New Comodo and existing Privacy Software Corporation customers will be able to download products formerly licensed to Privacy Software Corporation from »www.comodo.com, »www.privsoft.com and »www.nsclean.com very shortly."
»www.comodo.com/products/privsoft.html
Comodo is oh so slick looking, sexy too...that is really what I need.
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1 edit | Was just about to buy this. WOOOO I would have been pissed. 
Although this is very sad. What im scared for is comodo to get rid of boclean line and just use their integrated product. However if they offer both that would be awesome. I suggest everyone who is worried about the merger and your requests go to the comodo forum. The ceo actually participates on the forums and listens to his users, something you dont see very often. I hold comodo group very high for user based security group and as long as people speak their minds comodo most likely wont mess it up. | |
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Ryan
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Attleboro, MA | Mele your killing me here. Just agree with me so i dont have nightmares tonight. | |
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Kayrac
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Rochester, NH | sadly i uninstalled boclean because of the vista update issue, i guess we'll see how this pans out | |
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Psicop
More human than human
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| Stop whinging like old ladies. Comodo won't stuff-up BoClean, in fact it will remain the same, or even better and FREE!
Nice.
Cheer up, folks.
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fphall
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Bristol, CT | Awww Balls! I hope it does not turn into another useless Ad-Aware cookie scanner type thing. | |
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sharpy merc
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| BoClean has been an integral part of my computer setup since Win98.On hearing this news I first checked the date as april 1st looms, but, as sam said as the elves passed. "Makes me feel sad"
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