Re: Hrm in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r18077022 en Wed, 02 Dec 2009 21:58:44 EDT Wed, 02 Dec 2009 21:58:44 EDT Re: Hrm http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18087493 LilYoda :
said by UncleDirtNap See Profile :

Since when has Government intervention and regulation ever driven competition?
Has worked in many EU countries... Probably elsewhere as well..
Incumbents have been forced to share the network they inherited. But this was done already in the US with CLECS and ILECS, afaik.
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"the two most abundant things in the universe are Hydrogen and stupidity." (Harlan Ellison)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18087493 Fri, 30 Mar 2007 04:54:53 EDT Re: Hrm http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18083266 PGHammer : That is because you are in an area currently served by BellSouth (which is being bought by the not-so-new AT&T). I live in a VZ-serviced area (Maryland, to be specific) and have FIOS available *right now*. While VZ services a lot of the US, it does not cover the *entire* US. The majority of folks in DSLR won't be happy until FIOS/FTTP is available nationwide. *That* won't happen unless VZ is premitted to buy *all* the RBOCs (that won't happen) or they are allowed to compete heads-up with each other for basic phone service (that won't happen, either).]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18083266 Thu, 29 Mar 2007 12:46:23 EDT Re: Hrm http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18078739 RideRed : Ownership caps promote competition as does refusing to approve mergers (as rare as it may be).]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18078739 Wed, 28 Mar 2007 16:31:45 EDT Re: Hrm http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18078674 UncleDirtNap : Since when has Government intervention and regulation ever driven competition? The fastest way to kill broadband development and deployment is to let some corrupt government bureaucrats get their shit-hooks on it.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18078674 Wed, 28 Mar 2007 16:19:07 EDT Re: Hrm http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18078130 davoice :
said by RideRed See Profile :

Pigs will fly before we see DOCSIS 3.
Pardon me?!? Pigs can fly now. It's called propulsion. Simply a matter of the correct placement of the right quantity of dynamite, solid rocket fuel or similar material.

And oddly enough, dynamite is roughly what would be required to get the existing cable and phone companies off their butts and really interested in "eating their own children" by deploying next generation services that could potentially eliminate their current cushy revenue streams.

}Davoice]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18078130 Wed, 28 Mar 2007 14:42:30 EDT Re: Hrm http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18077022 RideRed :
said by Loker See Profile :

said by RideRed See Profile :

Pigs will fly before we see DOCSIS 3.
Well I hope you are better at hunting birds than Cheney, because thats the only way you are getting your bacon.
I have little to worry about. The pigs will be on the ground for long into the future. People will talk about flying pigs, but we won't ever see one.
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said by tristansbs See Profile :

Could this be the final blow for cable companies in areas that are served by FIOS? I sure hope so.
Keep wishing. This will take many years to start affecting the major cable companies anyway. I doubt it will impact them the way you're hoping. Keep in mind that once they can justify charging you more (ie. cable can't do it, nobody else can beat us, etc...) they will likely raise rates. :huh:
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said by RideRed See Profile :

Pigs will fly before we see DOCSIS 3.
Well I hope you are better at hunting birds than Cheney, because thats the only way you are getting your bacon.
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I do agree that a Republican (I'm a moderate myself), asking for a federal broadband plan is not a true republican.
Competition is a good thing, and a certain amount of government regulation would be good to kick start everything, however, the FUSF/USF, etc. should have been funding this, not the telco's slush fund.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18074521 Tue, 27 Mar 2007 21:51:55 EDT Re: Hrm http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18073819 supergirl : A Republican in California is a Moderate Democrat, and also believes in closed bathhouses for the Log Cabin Republicans (wealthy people who want to protect their money so they can afford their lover but not divorce).]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18073819 Tue, 27 Mar 2007 19:46:38 EDT Re: Hrm http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18073443 JamesPC : I am going to amaze you MORE, I AM A REPULICAN. But I am also an IT man and know the climate of broadband in this country. I know that the current scheme of less than five companies competing against each other. Is NOT going to cut it. We need to drive competition and one of the ways to do that is REFORM. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18073443 Tue, 27 Mar 2007 18:34:00 EDT Re: Hrm http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18073167 MadMANN :
said by tristansbs See Profile :

Could this be the final blow for cable companies in areas that are served by FIOS?
Sorry, but no.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18073167 Tue, 27 Mar 2007 17:47:45 EDT Re: Hrm http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18073107 en102 : I don't think you'll see too much more on the high end... how much more are people willing to pay for the highend service (+10Mbps, HD, etc.). Docsis 3.0 will require a new payout for Cable companies to deploy.

Having a state or federal broadband plan is the last thing I would expect out of someone from Orange County.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18073107 Tue, 27 Mar 2007 17:35:16 EDT Re: Hrm http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18072881 BosstonesOwn : Watch those words around here or they will call you a communist and try and rip the cable off your home.
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said by tristansbs See Profile :

Could this be the final blow for cable companies in areas that are served by FIOS? I sure hope so.
Yeah how many areas is that? Not many. Color me excited when FIOS gets near me. Right now I don't think there is any FIOS within 600 miles of me.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18072692 Tue, 27 Mar 2007 16:15:59 EDT Re: Hrm http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18072351 N3OGH : During one of my recent shifts I spied a Verizon tech working on one of those tan fiber boxes on the poles. Wanting to get a peak inside, I just had to stop. He was pretty cool, and took the time to explain a lot to me. I didn't get it when he said all future fios deployments would be GPON. I get it now.

Inside of the cabinet was neat-o. I didn't have my digital, so I couldn't take pics.
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