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wstwrdho

join:2007-03-15
Riverton, UT

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Re: IF...

I agree, with service to the whole state as the time defined goal.

RayW
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Layton, UT
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said by wstwrdho:

I agree, with service to the whole state as the time defined goal.
But that defeats the purpose of the bill which is getting away from the local communities requiring full build outs instead of just the areas with rich majority folks.
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wstwrdho

join:2007-03-15
Riverton, UT

No not if its done right. Right now potential customers outside of a city franchise cannot get service. With a State franchise everyone in the state should be covered. This should be required by any entity who wants to do business in the state (Telco or cable co or utopia co or muni co).



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said by wstwrdho:

I agree, with service to the whole state as the time defined goal.
It will never happen that, for the entire state, service coverage will be mandated.
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Karl Bode
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reply to wstwrdho

quote:
No not if its done right.
It isn't.

wstwrdho

join:2007-03-15
Riverton, UT

reply to fAcEtIOUs
The way things are currently? True. But how did farmer Joe get a phone, or electricity? Mandate and subsidy was the way it was done. City franchises certainly won't make it happen.


dynodb
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join:2004-04-21
Minneapolis, MN

reply to wstwrdho
Ridiculous. If they were required to offer service to every rural farmhouse in the state as a condition of offering service to anybody, they'd not be able to serve anybody and still make a profit.

It's a stupid argument, and I'm glad that they saw through it. As I understand it, the Iowa bill does have buildout requirements, but not the absurd notion of 100% availability.

We're not talking POTS or electricity here, only non-broadcast television; there's really no need for the government to get involved in offering a non-essential, luxury entertainment service beyond working out right-of-way issues.


dynodb
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join:2004-04-21
Minneapolis, MN

reply to Karl Bode

said by Karl Bode:

quote:
No not if its done right.
It isn't.
Would you care to share what specific objections you have after reading the bill, or is this simply another one of your usual kneejerk moments?

Have you even read the bill before passing judgement on it?

dynodb
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join:2004-04-21
Minneapolis, MN

reply to RayW

said by RayW:

said by wstwrdho:

I agree, with service to the whole state as the time defined goal.
But that defeats the purpose of the bill which is getting away from the local communities requiring full build outs instead of just the areas with rich majority folks.
Oh really?

»coolice.legis.state.ia.us/Cool-I···ll=SF554

2. A competitive cable service provider or competitive video service provider holding a certificate of franchise authority shall not deny access to any group of potential residential subscribers because of the income of residents in the local area in which such group resides.

wstwrdho

join:2007-03-15
Riverton, UT

Yea, really. One more time. Read my lips. Make it work for a state.

Got any more dumb quotes, troll???



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reply to dynodb

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is this simply another one of your usual kneejerk moments?
Nice attack.

I've read this and all of the other statewidde franchise "reform" bills. Few if any of them do much of anything for consumers, as they're designed primarily to legalize cherry picking (eliminate build-out requirements) and eliminate other profit draggers like providing local access.

User Marigolds offers up some excellent analysis of the Iowa bill here. The flaws with it are made very clear.

As we've discussed in the past, your primary interest is shilling for Qwest.

RayW
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Layton, UT
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reply to wstwrdho
Oh well, money talks, and money walks, over the folks who are trying to make a living and pay taxes.


dynodb
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join:2004-04-21
Minneapolis, MN

reply to wstwrdho
I quoted the bill that is the subject of this thread and story; the quoted portion directly contradicts a post in this thread.

You seem to have a pretty expansive definition of the word "troll"



Karl Bode
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reply to dynodb

Re: IF...

Enough. These dsl employee/cable employee fights in the news comments are obnoxious.

As are employees shilling for their employers, then attacking critics.

I'm going to be cracking down harder on both from here on.

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