Sprint, WTF are u doing! in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r18090475 en Fri, 19 Mar 2010 17:47:27 EDT Fri, 19 Mar 2010 17:47:27 EDT Re: Sprint, WTF are u doing! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18098527 cob_ : You might also consider that most other providers are in the same boat. Here, Verizon Wireless has fantastic coverage - but none of it is on their own towers.

MCI's failure of a venture into wireless was entirely Sprint's network.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18098527 Sun, 01 Apr 2007 10:23:10 EDT Re: Sprint, WTF are u doing! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18095342 Siryak :
said by batterup See Profile :

said by Siryak See Profile :

How is this Sprint's fault? Also Sprint has 10x better coverage than Verizon or AT&T.
No they don't. That is so obviously false where did you pull that from?
Then prove me wrong...If you lay the evidence out in front of me I am not afraid to admit I was wrong. I have personally looked at the maps and from what I see Sprint appears to have the better coverage. In Texas Verizon's coverage is literally laughable. Then Sprint still beats Cingular here too. Also Sprint seems to have a denser coverage throughout the rest of the US.
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Seriously though, you might be surprised how many farmers are using cell phones. There are areas it is miles between houses, and a cell phone is the only communication.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18095062 Sat, 31 Mar 2007 16:02:24 EDT Re: Sprint, WTF are u doing! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18095060 batterup :
said by Siryak See Profile :

How is this Sprint's fault? Also Sprint has 10x better coverage than Verizon or AT&T.
No they don't. That is so obviously false where did you pull that from?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18095060 Sat, 31 Mar 2007 16:02:10 EDT Re: Sprint, WTF are u doing! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18093561 yahtzee :
said by en102 See Profile :

I live in the Los Angeles area, and my Sprint iDEN Blackberry 7510 blows chunks.
Then quit being a tight ass and buy a new BlackBerry. Welcome to 2007.
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said by Albatross6 See Profile :

Their coverage in Western Kansas is amazing.
Their home office is located in Kansas City!
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As a result of the poor coverage, Nextel users are literally ruunning away. T-Mobile has been a huge beneficiary. That's where I went and couldn't be happier with my MDA Windows Mobile 5 phone.
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18091330 Fri, 30 Mar 2007 19:37:04 EDT Re: Sprint, WTF are u doing! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18091300 Albatross6 : Does it matter? Does wheat need wireless?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18091300 Fri, 30 Mar 2007 19:29:51 EDT Re: Sprint, WTF are u doing! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18091252 bluedragon : The western Kansas coverage is not technically theirs. It is through the Sprint roaming alliance. 2 local carriers cover that area for Sprint.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18091252 Fri, 30 Mar 2007 19:19:37 EDT Re: Sprint, WTF are u doing! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18091219 pokesph :
said by fiberguy See Profile :

:: sigh :: it depends on WHERE you are as well as anything else including the phone you use.

You can't compare Spring and Nextel as they are two different nets. Nextel is GOING to have "horrible" coverage on a nationwide scale.. they are and have always been for business and they have always served the major metro areas.. not the boonies.

To be fair, it can be said the same against VZ/ATT.. in Sacramento, downtown area, and first outter ring of the city, those two SUCK and Sprint/Nextel rock. It all depends on a few things..
Agreed.. I use Nextel and have not had any coverage issues in N Cal at all.. even the farm lands are covered quite well.. of course YMMV
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said by en102 See Profile :

Covering roaming partners in a dotted green as 'unknown signal' only when zoomed down to the street level is a little deceptive.
And my personal experience with Sprint coverage maps is that they took a page from the "FCC Broadband availability" book. If you can get a signal, even a weak one, anywhere in a given zip code, then they call that area covered.
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said by fiberguy See Profile :

Two things.. My comment on comparing the two (sprint/nextel) is not to compare them as a single network! People think that because they merged, that over night it's one network. I was saying not to compare the "two"..
Which, if you read my first post, I didn't. I compared them as separate networks.

It's also a pretty new service which doesn't change ANYTHING.. and I believe that the ghetto service markets to major cities..
Boost has been around for many years. It's main point is for people who want to use Nextel's Direct Connect service, without having to get locked into a contract.

my point remains. NEXTEL is and has always been a business service and they have always services the major metros..
So? I have used them all for both personal use and business.

NOT THE BOONIES where they are less likely used.
Why do you keep blathering on about the boonies. In my first post, which you must not have read, is specifically said not in the boonies, which must mean a metro area.

Hard to swallow that?
Why would it, you keep posting things to back up my point, and you keep rambling on about something I'm not even talking about.
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Boost? Who cares! What does that crapy ghetto of a product line have to do with ANYTHING other than make Nextel users look like low lifes.. It's also a pretty new service which doesn't change ANYTHING.. and I believe that the ghetto service markets to major cities.. and NOT the barnyards of America. my point remains. NEXTEL is and has always been a business service and they have always services the major metros.. NOT THE BOONIES where they are less likely used. Hard to swallow that?
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best I get is ~ -90dBm, coverage a few miles from me is non-existant (on the way to Costco no less), and the only place I get good service is at HomeDepot.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18090865 Fri, 30 Mar 2007 18:05:28 EDT Re: Sprint, WTF are u doing! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18090850 Siryak :
said by en102 See Profile :

Who said anything about EVDO ?
I did.... ;)
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I don't have any concern over 3G data that I don't use.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18090845 Fri, 30 Mar 2007 18:02:32 EDT Re: Sprint, WTF are u doing! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18090830 en102 : I live in the Los Angeles area, and my Sprint iDEN Blackberry 7510 blows chunks.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18090830 Fri, 30 Mar 2007 17:59:13 EDT Re: Sprint, WTF are u doing! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18090828 Siryak :
said by SteveCon See Profile :

said by Siryak See Profile :

How is this Sprint's fault? Also Sprint has 10x better coverage than Verizon or AT&T.
Really?? On what PLANET??
Ok first of all that map posted above is not a Sprint coverage map. Second of all Cingular or Verizon doesn't get within 70 miles of where I am at and Sprint covers it all over. 3rd most of Cingular and Verizon's coverage are roaming. 4th Sprint's EVDO coverage is FAR superior. Also to the guy saying they don't serve the boonies. You couldn't be more wrong. I am in such a small town I haft to drive 25 miles to get to a grocery store and I haft to use satellite internet because nothing else is available. I have coverage from Sprint. Guess who doesn't come within 70 miles of me? Cingular and Verizon. Actually Verizon doesn't even come that close.
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Covering roaming partners in a dotted green as 'unknown signal' only when zoomed down to the street level is a little deceptive.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18090800 Fri, 30 Mar 2007 17:54:30 EDT Re: Sprint, WTF are u doing! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18090795 imrf :
said by fiberguy See Profile :

:: sigh :: it depends on WHERE you are as well as anything else including the phone you use.
I'm well aware of that. I have followed many threads at Howard forums and other sites to see what phone have had the best RF, and have used them. I've had old phones and new phones from Sprint, Nextel, and VZW, Verizon has been the only one that has worked well for me in all the metro areas I have been to.

You can't compare Spring and Nextel as they are two different nets.
I can compare any company I want, they all are cell phone providers.

Nextel is GOING to have "horrible" coverage on a nationwide scale.. they are and have always been for business and they have always served the major metro areas.. not the boonies.
What does Nextel being a business oriented company have to do with anything? Ever hear of Boost Mobile? Do you know who their primary target audience is? And yes, all have been compared in a larger metropolitan area, as I said in my post.

To be fair, it can be said the same against VZ/ATT.. in Sacramento, downtown area, and first outter ring of the city, those two SUCK and Sprint/Nextel rock. It all depends on a few things..
Which is what I said in my original post. But Sprints network is nowhere near as good as that person I replied to. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18090795 Fri, 30 Mar 2007 17:53:09 EDT Re: Sprint, WTF are u doing! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18090766 Albatross6 : Their coverage in Western Kansas is amazing.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18090766 Fri, 30 Mar 2007 17:45:37 EDT Re: Sprint, WTF are u doing! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18090738 fiberguy : :: sigh :: it depends on WHERE you are as well as anything else including the phone you use.

You can't compare Spring and Nextel as they are two different nets. Nextel is GOING to have "horrible" coverage on a nationwide scale.. they are and have always been for business and they have always served the major metro areas.. not the boonies.

To be fair, it can be said the same against VZ/ATT.. in Sacramento, downtown area, and first outter ring of the city, those two SUCK and Sprint/Nextel rock. It all depends on a few things..
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When you look at the other's maps, you think the blobs of color equal a company owned tower? or one they have roaming agreements with as well where they include your available calling area?

At least Sprint doesn't cut you off for roaming too much like the others have. Cingular/american thieves & thugs, say one thing, mean another. Spring - upfront. So, if sprint is doing it wrong and loosing customers, then I'd rather be with the loosing ship. Just shows that most Americans don't care about the truth, rather, they want to be fed what they want to hear even if it's not true. For that reason alone, my attitude will never change.
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said by Siryak See Profile :

How is this Sprint's fault? Also Sprint has 10x better coverage than Verizon or AT&T.
Really?? On what PLANET??
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That is Sprint's network + all their roaming providers!

The first map looks just like Sprint's own CDMA network coverage.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18090672 Fri, 30 Mar 2007 17:27:07 EDT Re: Sprint, WTF are u doing! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18090665 imrf :
said by Siryak See Profile :

Also Sprint has 10x better coverage than Verizon or AT&T.
I disagree. In all the areas I go to, both Sprint and Nextel have horrible coverage, and these places aren't even in the boonies. I switched to Verizon recently because the service in those areas are covered quite well by VZW.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18090665 Fri, 30 Mar 2007 17:25:48 EDT Re: Sprint, WTF are u doing! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18090662 KoolMoe : Some article I read stated the official reason was Sprint's bid/price estimate was too high.

Unless officially subjugated as a 'going concern', Sprint's profit/loss statements shouldn't have any bearing on their selection. In fact, I'd suspect such consideration would give them an opening to challenge the decision.

Consider this Networx proposal was largely for maintenance of legacy systems. Sprint spun-off their legacy arm last year as Embarq. The other companies who are still in the running (met the down-select, note they did not actually win any contract yet) all still have their legacy components.

The REAL contracts to watch will those looking for vendors to implement wireless solutions for the government. If Sprint is not picked as a finalist in those contracts, then I'd worry about their longevity (and/or general competency).
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said by en102 See Profile :

??? Sprint's network is pretty darn small... most of their US network is comprised of roaming.

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said by Siryak See Profile :

How is this Sprint's fault? Also Sprint has 10x better coverage than Verizon or AT&T.
Maybe because Sprint continues to lose money and execs faster than anybody else in a booming industry. Their proposal may not have met minimum standards for an ongoing company.
Turnover in the executive offices has also been high. Three key leaders jumped ship last year: onetime chairman and former Nextel chief Tom Donahue, strategy man Tom Kelly and operations head Len Lauer.

Meanwhile, with its eroding customer base, falling long-distance and wholesale prices and weakening business services unit, Sprint managed to turn in four consecutive quarters of disappointing financial results last year.
quote:
Maybe they are losing too much money on those "UNLIMITED" data plans everyone loves so much.


In January, after losing 306,000 postpaid mobile phone subscribers in the fourth quarter, the company lowered guidance and said it would fire 5,000 workers.

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said by Siryak See Profile :

How is this Sprint's fault? Also Sprint has 10x better coverage than Verizon or AT&T.
Man I can't breath this is so funny.
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said by Siryak See Profile :

How is this Sprint's fault? Also Sprint has 10x better coverage than Verizon or AT&T.
Somebody's been watching too many commercials.
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Sprint's takeover of Nextel = loss of many customers
Sprint losing out of Gov't contract $$$
Lets see if that WiMAX lifeboat has any leaks.
Still waiting to see about Alltel sale as well.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18090520 Fri, 30 Mar 2007 16:57:14 EDT Sprint, WTF are u doing! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18090475 tpac_man : Man I gotta say Sprint is really screwin up lately...
They definitely need to get this shit straight. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18090475 Fri, 30 Mar 2007 16:49:46 EDT