FCC?? in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r18094946 en Sun, 23 Nov 2008 15:41:21 EDT Sun, 23 Nov 2008 15:41:21 EDT Re: FCC?? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18105900 RadioDoc : Are you a communications law attorney?
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Toolmaster of La Grange.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18105900 Mon, 02 Apr 2007 16:34:56 EDT Re: FCC?? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18105409 laudensa : You're confusing spectrum management with improper interference with commerce. While the FCC has a legitimate role in spectrum management issues, it should keep its nose out of the business side of this merger.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18105409 Mon, 02 Apr 2007 14:58:28 EDT Re: FCC?? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18098633 RadioDoc : re: FCC & Internet. I suppose you're just using that as an example of a red herring because it has absolutely nothing to do with this.

re: Spectrum nonsense. Speaking of red herrings, you say it's idiotic but then attempt to change the subject to some promise someone made not to merge and then do not address the spectrum management aspect at all. The "promise not to merge" is also irrelevant. There were no such promises. What there is, however, is a promise, via claims and proposals made during the Rulemaking which created the service along with claims and promises made at the licensing stage which they are legally obligated to abide and follow through on. If they can't do it, then they need to turn in the license. Very simple stuff.

Claiming that a format calling itself "free radio" is evidence of terrestrial radio's fear of satellite is laughable. There have been similar format names for decades. Maybe you forget "pirate radio" which was around long before the first XM/Sirius satellite was launched, not to mention all of the free-form and progressive stations from the 70's. Or any number of stations worldwide with cutesy names. I find it amusingly ironic that the same person who was responsible for the CBS you obviously blindly hate is the one kiting this merger you blindly love.

There is no consumer upside to this merger. Mel Karmazin is trying to get both at fire sale prices. Consumers are hardly on the radar. You snort and spit and make baseless accusations and claims but don't provide a shred of backup. The only one rating here is you.
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Toolmaster of La Grange.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18098633 Sun, 01 Apr 2007 10:47:19 EDT Re: FCC?? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18098434 RideRed :
said by RadioDoc See Profile :

Did you think this all just appeared on it's own one night?

It's a licensed service using licensed airwaves which were taken from other licensed users for a specific purpose. If it is not going to be used for what it was designated, it's time to give it to a higher use. Promises were made and certain expectations of performance are required.

Your Nathan Therm imitation, notwithstanding.
More red herrings. The FCC doesn't regulate the internet yet it seems to be running just fine with self-regulation for 10 years so that argument is moot. Satellite radio would exist just fine without government interference.

Meanwhile none of this 'spectrum' nonsense supports opposition to a merger and neither does the idiotic argument of "well they promised not to merge". So what? The FCC changes it's mind all the time and the merger rule was about preventing a monopoly but anyone with objectivity sees that satellite radio has plenty of competition from terrestrial radio, portable music players and other mobile entertainment devices. If terrestrial radio didn't see satellite as a competitor CBS wouldn't be calling themselves "Free Radio" or lobbying so hard against this merger.

A merger is good for consumers and that is all that matters. There is no point in discussing it any further or entertaining more irrelevant anti-satellite radio rants.
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There's only 10 types of people in this world. Those who understand binary, and those who don't. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18098434 Sun, 01 Apr 2007 10:02:59 EDT Re: FCC?? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18098364 RideRed : That's like saying cars wouldn't exist without traffic lights.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18098364 Sun, 01 Apr 2007 09:44:21 EDT Re: FCC?? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18097408 RadioDoc : Actually, Radio Free Europe used leased stations from the countries they operated in, or used US-based shortwave transmitters under agreements with the IFRB.

As for the Ruskies, yeah, that's a viable argument. :uhh: But even if you are serious, satellite signals are trivial to block by interference. That's why the FCC is involved in the first place...spectrum management.
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Toolmaster of La Grange.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18097408 Sun, 01 Apr 2007 00:28:00 EDT Re: FCC?? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18097381 batterup :
said by RadioDoc See Profile :

It's the FCC's business because it's a licensed service.
Back in the day Radio Free Europe broadcast to Iron Curtain countries. I am sure they had no licence to do so. What if our good friends the Ruskies or the Yellow Hoard decide to broadcast from space. Will they need a FCC licence?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18097381 Sun, 01 Apr 2007 00:20:52 EDT Re: FCC?? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18097320 RadioDoc : Did you think this all just appeared on it's own one night?

It's a licensed service using licensed airwaves which were taken from other licensed users for a specific purpose. If it is not going to be used for what it was designated, it's time to give it to a higher use. Promises were made and certain expectations of performance are required.

Your Nathan Therm imitation, notwithstanding.
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Toolmaster of La Grange.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18097320 Sun, 01 Apr 2007 00:07:46 EDT Re: FCC?? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18097268 rec9140 :
said by RideRed See Profile :
Of course they would.


And just how would they exist????

The radio spectrum is a finite resource (in terms of easily useable frequencies for a given task) and needs to be licensed in a systematic process or problems will arise.

No governmnet aka FCC, no sat radio, no FM, no AM, no OTA TV, no DBS, no C/Ku band sat, and on....

Let the marketplace divy up the spectrum.... Oh that would work well, NOT! The FCC's failure to properly enfocre its own regulations and an industry bully have been polluting the 800MHz band for years and only now being cleaned up via the Rebanding process. Government oversight, regulation and licensing for all things radio is needed now and will be needed even more in the future. If only people with real brain power inhabited the FCC, but thats......]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18097268 Sat, 31 Mar 2007 23:54:05 EDT Re: FCC?? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18096859 RideRed : Of course they would.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18096859 Sat, 31 Mar 2007 22:20:44 EDT Re: FCC?? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18096614 RadioDoc : Without the government in the way they wouldn't exist.
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Toolmaster of La Grange.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18096614 Sat, 31 Mar 2007 21:34:47 EDT Re: FCC?? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18096182 RideRed : Get the government out of the way and they'll do just fine.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18096182 Sat, 31 Mar 2007 20:16:39 EDT Re: FCC?? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18095625 RadioDoc : It's the FCC's business because it's a licensed service. There is no provision in the license for combining the two, nor was that ever envisioned when the service was created and authorized. Merging these two will require that the service be redefined and re-authorized (re-licensed). Even Kevin Martin isn't going to go that far to make Mel smile.

If two can't survive and one can, then kill one off, sell it at flea market prices and let someone else come in and give it a shot. If expenses are out of control they only have themselves to blame.
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Toolmaster of La Grange.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18095625 Sat, 31 Mar 2007 18:20:51 EDT FCC?? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18094946 batterup : What does the FCC have to do with this? If the FCC can guarantee a return on investment then they can stick their nose into this. Until thin it is none of their business. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18094946 Sat, 31 Mar 2007 15:37:23 EDT