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$100k per plane but can be installed by airline maintenance overnight? someone please explain where the hell those numbers come from. |
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pnh102
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| said by morbo  :$100k per plane but can be installed by airline maintenance overnight? someone please explain where the hell those numbers come from. The In-Flight Broadband Network Installation Company, of course. 
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Michieru2
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Excellent point.
No way in hell they would take out a plane currently in service just to install broadband on it.
Every minute is a few hundred dollars wasted, they cannot afford to have these planes down for more than the amount of time to maintain them.
What the airline industry should focus on is providing a comfortable ride FIRST and energy efficient jets to lower down costs while still keep ticket prices the same to pay for the new improvements.
Imagine a day when the jet engines are actually silent and you can sit down and relax. Read the news paper and actually enjoy the ride. Now that's better than anything broadband or snakes on a plane can offer.
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s bassaw
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| said by Michieru2 :Excellent point. No way in hell they would take out a plane currently in service just to install broadband on it. Every minute is a few hundred dollars wasted, they cannot afford to have these planes down for more than the amount of time to maintain them. What the airline industry should focus on is providing a comfortable ride FIRST and energy efficient jets to lower down costs while still keep ticket prices the same to pay for the new improvements. Imagine a day when the jet engines are actually silent and you can sit down and relax. Read the news paper and actually enjoy the ride. Now that's better than anything broadband or snakes on a plane can offer. You have a poor idea on the amount of profit each flight actually produces. There was a documentary aired about American Airlines a few months ago. They broke down how much money is made on the typical flight from California to New York. With the cost of fuel, other surcharges, people using their, "miles" and etc, AA only makes about $300 on that flight. If two passengers didn't fly, it would be a loss. They also stated that a lot of their flights end up costing them money versus making money.
It is not the airline industry who can decide if they want to build more efficient jets. It is the manufacturers who determine how efficient a flight can be. The only real thing an airline can do is lower the amount of weight they have on a flight and try to get lower fuel contracts. |
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Michieru2
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| Poor idea indeed, it was a huge mistake in my part to actually eliminate myself from TV. I been so out of touch I hardly know much anymore about the airline industry or the world around me for that matter.
Now, since you watched that documentary what is their biggest cost, I would presume it would be maintenance and fuel. Now how much on average will it cost to upgrade the planes currently in service or a new rebuilt jet entirely from the ground up.
How much on average does it cost for pilot, co-pilot, flight attendants, etc. What is the seating capacity of each plane, on average how much profit is earned per customer and what will be the total profit of one flight on 24 hour stop and go between short points and destinations such as KMIA(Miami International Airport) to MCO(Orlando International Airport)?
P.S I really enjoy watching documentaries, what TV network?
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| "P.S I really enjoy watching documentaries, what TV network?"
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Michieru2
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expert007
join:2006-01-10
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| reply to Michieru2
Under the right circumstances, they wouldn't have to remove an airplane from revenue service to do the installation. Most aircraft have various levels of maintenance performed at night, and equipment installations and minor modifications are sometimes assigned. $100k sounds like a very reasonable figure considering the equipment, the installation costs, and the Supplemental Type Certificate (STC) that would be necessary to get the kit by the Feds. IF it wasn't done overnight, there would be plenty of time to get it done while the aircraft is out of service for a letter check. |
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Michieru2
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Miami, FL | reply to hobgoblin
Fragen Sie, was genau? |
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s bassaw
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The two biggest expenses were fuel and labor... You wouldn't believe this, but after getting rid of all the magazines from the seat backs, AA was able to eliminate $2 million in fuel costs! Who'd ever guess all those magazines cost $2 million to lug around?! |
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pnh102
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Mount Airy, MD | reply to Michieru2
Bork bork. |
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s bassaw
join:2006-06-11
New Rochelle, NY | reply to expert007
I think eac AA aircraft gets taken out of service for 2 weeks every three years or so and is gutted out and rebuilt. While they're doing this, installing the wiFi equipment would be a good idea, no? |
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